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Babies Today's MomsTalk Archive
Augest, 1999 (Part 2)

Happy Sunday Morning all... it's sure is quiet here on the weekends! Gosh, i'm never the 1st or 2nd person to post so i know it's reallllllly slow! My weekend has been busy, still trying to get this house painted.... got another part of the living room done! Argghhhh... it's not even 1/2 way done yet! YUKCK I wanted the whole thing done,but I have a large oak entertainment center that I cannot move, i'm afraid i'll scratch the wood floors if I try and do it myself so I've got to go ask my neighbor's for help moving it so I can get to that wall. I want DH to come home from this long trip and be amazed at how good the house looks! I need him to be impressed so he doesn't complain about all the money i've spent on it! Money fights are such a drag! Well I hope everyone is enjoying their weekend!
Hugs
Shanna & Annie Grace
email: shanna1@earthlink.net
Sunday, August 08, 1999 at 08:17:17 (PDT)

Hi, my name is Angie and I'm in withdrawl from this web page!
I'm back! I can't believe it's been solong since I've been here---- like 4 wks I think. Things have been soooo hectic here lately. If you remember me always complaining about car problems I can now say that book is closed. I went on a mini road trip a week and a half ago and about 2 hrs from home mt car stopped dead. The transmission froze and the wheels locked up--going up a big hill with a car right behind us. I thought for sure the car was going to his us but he didn't. I ended up having to junk the car because their was no use wasting the money to fix it. I'm still carless but DH is getting a new job(pay increase of about 5 bucks an hr YEAHHHH) so we're lookin gfor a new one.
Tommy finally got on a schedule I can live with. He slowly went from going to bed at 2am to going at midnight and now at 10pm. He did this all by himself and boy am I grateful! The past two night he was up later but it was mine and dh's fault. We didn't have him home early enough to start his bedtime routine so everything was delayed. We took him to the fair last night. He really had a blast! I got a ton of pictures of him in the petting zoo grabbing and "petting" the animals. They were all very tolerant of him pulling their ears and one baby billie goat decided to be inseperable from him. Of course I was nervous that they would bite him but they didn't. Then Tommy and I rode the elephant and DH took pictures. We walked through the animal pavillions so he could look at everything. A big goose started squaking and scared the beegeebees out of him. Other than that he never cried and was a perfect angel.
There are so many new mommies and babies here, I feel lost! WEelcome to you all and congrats! Just a little about me.....My name is Angie (DUH!) and I'm 20 yrs old. Tommy was born 03/02/99 and we've been visiting this board since April. I used to post daily but since I;ve gone back to work part time I can hardly find the time to think for myself! I wish you all the best with your little ones and pray they are all happy, healthy, and beautiful!
Ok, I gotta go, I promise I'll be back soon--hopefully tomorrow. I haven't read all the posts so I will (slowly) work my way through those. JUST A FEW PERSONNALS>>>>>>>

AD: The next time you revise th mommy list could you add me on and send me a copy please??!! Here;s the info.....Angie Biddle; 20 yrs; 03/24/79 I'm from PA, e-mail-- bid8616@hotmail.com career- veterinary assistant dh-- Will hobbies: horse back riding, camping, hiking, reading, swimming son: Thomas Alexandar; 5 mos; 03/02/99 I post from home and I breast feed. Fowards are ok.
I hope you can understand it. Thanks :)

Shanna: I lost your address and so I haven't sent pics of Tommy for the mailing. If you could e-mail it to me I promise I'll send some this month. Thanks, also, would you prefer wallet size and do you care if any are snap shots or are we sticking to professional only?? Thankyou again. My e-mail is bid8616@hotmail.com.

Oh, one last thing--at Tommys 4mos ck up for shots he weighed 17lbs 4oz and was 25 inches long! That's my little monster!

Sorry it was sooo long, I guess that's what happens when you drop off the face of the earth for awhile. Be back soon AND I am STILL waiting for AF from before I dissappeared!
Angie and Tommy (5 mos & 6 days!)
email: bid8616@hotmail.com
Sunday, August 08, 1999 at 08:24:29 (PDT)

Good evening ladies,

No too busy in here today. My date with DH on friday night was wonderful. I didn't even get the urge to call home. I would recommend a concert for a first date...not too much talking involved and it broke the "ice" all over again.
DH is sooo sweet today, he moved my computer into the bedroom so I am not isolated in the basement while online, and he had Nicholas laughing at him all morning!! It was soo cute to hear. I think he is teething though (Nicholas not DH, although...)he keeps gnawing on his hands and anything else he can find to put in his mouth. I felt bumps on his lower and upper front gums and he is a little cranky today.

Charline - Thanks, yest the date was wonderful

Barb - What about Family Leave Act? I know its unpaid, but they have to hold your job for 12 weeks

Patty - Nick and Jarin the cat eating duo...I can only imagin it getting worse when Nicholas becomes mobile

Katy - So glad to hear Liam is okay.

Angie - Tommy sounds big and cute..at 2 months Nicholas was 24 inches and 11pounds 12 ounces. Now???who knows but I know he has grown a bit. Next visit is Sept 3 so I'll wait and see then.

That's it for now, I should go and start getting everything ready for another work week, Nicolas' bath, packing his bag, laundry...who said weekends are time off???

Bye
Jenni and Nicholas (3 months Old)
email: njemtjen@aol.com
Sunday, August 08, 1999 at 16:36:58 (PDT)

Hi - it's Moriah & Alex.

I threw SIL's bridal shower today. It turned out so nice. We had about 32 people. 2 other bridesmaids & I hosted a luncheon at a cute Italian resturantl. It really was fun, I've gotten 4 calls already this evening from people saying how great it was. I think I should research a career in event planning. I LOVE to do that kind of thing. I'm always the 1st to offer to throw a shower or have a dinner at my house. I may give it some thought. Does anyone know anybody who already does this? Is it a good part time thing?

Alex was the life of the party. Of couse there was tons of family there. Some had never met Alex. So it was fun with all the "OOing & AWing". It used to depress me about how we missed out on things like that in the beginning but it's nice that we can do them now. (Only for a few short months though because as soon as it's cold & flu season again - we're back on quarantine!)

Where is everyone this weekend? I guess it's just so beautiful out that everyone must be outside. Chat again tomorrow.
Moriah & Alex (10 months & life of the party)
email: geoffandmoriah@msn.com
Sunday, August 08, 1999 at 20:59:05 (PDT)

Nancy L. & Andy here,

Where do you guys find time to post? I can barely squeeze out time to lurk and then I only have time to scan the posts.

Can anyone tell me how long it takes for the black line on my stomach to go away? And I still have 14 pounds of pre-pregnancy fat (gained 28 in all). Is it mine for life?

Well, the move is looming near. I have pretty much let DH take care of all the details. I just don't have the energy.

Andy has been occassionally sleeping thru the night. But last night he wanted fed at 3 am. How exhausing!

Barb C.-Welcome! I read your post on the other board about your MIL waking up Haley, giving her a bottle and then leaving without burping her. Why is it everyone wants to give them a bottle (even if they are exclusively breastfed) but NO ONE wants to burp or change diapers? I have the same problem. BTW I had trouble breastfeeding too but we are doing half and half right now. We're using Isomil and I don't think Andy cares what he eats, as long as he gets something.

Crystal-I know it's old news but I wanted to comment on your post about Darrell growing up. I feel the same way. With Andy going on formula supplements (bcs he didn't gain weight) in his third week I feel like he zipped from six pounds to eight in NO TIME. It makes me feel cheated out of his newborn phase. I am happy for him to meet milestones on time-and who isn't proud when their baby reaches them early?.. but this is all happening so fast!

Does anyone know when they stop being newborns? Just curious if there was a week cut-off.

And who has been taking my tiny baby every night and leaving a noticably much older one there in his place every morning? *S

Drool-Andy is a championship drooler. I just thought babies drooled alot. I sure hope he hasn't started teething at 2 1/2 months already. There was some explaination in "What to Expect the 1st Yr" but I can't remember it. Probably something about maturing saliva glands I suppose.

AD-I don't know if this will help you but I first got a Medela battery operated pump but couldn't really get much with it so then I also got an Avent ISIS manual pump. Wow! When I want to double pump I use them simultaneously...I think the Medela has an adaptor to be a double pump as well. But the Medela pump is very noisy and hurts on anything but the lowest suction setting. I prefer the ISIS pump, it's quiet so it doesn't lull Andy to sleep if I use it while he's nursing and since it's manual YOU adjust the suction. I have found that I have to be real gentle until the milk flows and then I can be more aggressive. Funny, when I fantasized about nursing it never included a breastpump. LOL. Also, I finally saw how my maid gets rid of cat hair on upholstery...I couldn't see exactly but I think she uses a suede brush.

Whoever has the 3 week old baby (sorry don't remember your name)-You shouldn't be doing anything yet. Your husband's expectations (and yours) of you are unrealistic. I did too much in the beginning and I bled forever. At 4 weeks I got lots of fresh blood and thought it was AF, but no just me trying to be superwoman. Learn from me an postpone all non-essentials until after your six week checkup if you can.


Nancy L. & Andy (10 weeks)
email: nls@loxinfo.co.th
Sunday, August 08, 1999 at 21:06:17 (PDT)

Hi- Jayme and kids here-
I've actually been busy enough this weekend to not use the computer!! I never have a life! Anyway- I'm rather owerwhelmed about all the posts since my last, so I can't even remember all the personals I was going to do. (I ought to invest in some pens and a notebook, huh?) Owen is getting so very huge- his swing (battery-operated) doesn't even swing him anymore! I keep having to push it! I had this happen once my other two got a little bigger than newborn, so maybe the swing's a piece of junk.

To whoever was asking about nursing/weaning/formula-AD I think, but I'm not sure- I nursed all my boys, but also gave them Prosobee formula rather early on. I don't like the idea of the baby depending solely on me. I use Avent bottles, and I try to pump when I miss mmmore than one feeding in a row, and I try to vary which feedings get bottles of formula. I use the soy(Prosobee) because I have a milk allergy and so do my older two. I generally give only one or two bottles of formula a day, but at least I know that if I had to be gone for a while my son wouldn't starve. I had been worried about my milk supply being adequate, because I wasn't leaking or feeling full like I did with the other two, but Owen's off the charts for weight right now, so he must be getting enough. And on those Build-up-the-supply days, I make sure I nurse all the feedings so that I can keep up with him. Also, i'm a bad mom who gives my 10 week old cereal, stage one foods and juice. I started with the cereal at 2 weeks, the juice at 4 weeks, and the jars at 6 weeks. I did the same with his brothers. (Please, no one lecture me- I know what all the books and doctors say, but I have had no problems with Owen or the other two.)

What is the deal with the pictures being sent to someone for something? I think I missed something there.

Walter (DH) does to the field tomorrow, so it's just me and the boys for a while. I definatelly hate the Army for this!!

I saw a book like the ones everyone is talking about with the pictures for baby. It was at Toys-R-Us ansd it was made by Sassy. It was made of plastic- like those tub books- and was very colorful. You slipped the photos into clear plastic sleeves,and said Who loves baby or something like that on the front. It was less than $10 here, so it'll be cheaper on the mainland.

Well, I can't really think of any more of the personals today. I'll be lonlely for awhile with DH gone, so I will catch up then.

I'm thinking of Baby Kelsey frequently,since my only cousin is named Kelsey, and yours is the only other Kelsey I have heard of (besides Grammer.) She is 12. What was your Kelsey's middle name? My cousin's is Lee. I think of you and the two Kelsey's whenever I see my middle son, and I have to give him a squeeze. I cannot even begin to fathom the feelings you must feel. A neighbor of mine back when we were stationed in Ft. Lewis had a son who had 3 heart surgeries. He was 14 months when we moved and he was so sickly. He weighed 13 or 14 pounds, ate through a G-tube and didn't do any more than a newborn- no smiles, no rolling over, nothing. He will need 24 hour care for the rest of his life. I sometimes wonder why the world takes some and then leaves others.
Jayme, Ethan-3yrs, 2mths,Bubby-22mths,Owen-10 wks
email: jpahucki@aol.com
Monday, August 09, 1999 at 02:39:53 (PDT)

Hi All, Allison and Olivia here,

Quiet here -- shopped all day Saturday without DH and Olivia -- she was awake all day and a bit fussy, but made up for it Sunday when she slept most of the day. DH said, "how come she wouldn't do that yesterday?" Ahhh, motherhood! Cleaned out all of the milk I had pumped and even one from the freezer, so now I'm back to starting from scratch! Oh well, at least I know there's more where it came from.

Jenni -- thanks for the toy info. We may have to invest in an exersaucer.

Lisa B -- Sounds like you're having a ball with Max. Your stories were sooooo cute!

Barb -- send me your birth story -- yeah, that would be great! Still have gall bladder w/ gall stones, but it's coming out on the 25th! The brace must be a major pain, how long do you think she'll have to wear it? I don't have any suggestions about your daycare stuff, except that asking for an extenion on mat. leave sounds like a good idea.

Shanna -- what's the deadline for getting pix to you? I'll start snapping now.

Well, that's our life in a nutshell. Who took the heat, anyways? It's gotten really cold here and Olivia's been spending her days in sleepers. brrrr

Back later
Allison and Olivia
email: finnamor@nbnet.nb.ca
Monday, August 09, 1999 at 04:23:10 (PDT)

Katy here

Moriah-Happy 10 month b-day to Alex. It sounds like he had a lot of fun being the life of the party.

Liam was finally able to take a nap at my mom's house yesterday. Mom was able to sleep him to sleep. I was so glad that he wasn't going to be cranky the entire time. Liam is also now getting two more teeth in. One on the top and one on the bottom.

Hope everyone else is doing well.
Katy and Liam (10 months today!!)
email: princess__bride@homail.com
Monday, August 09, 1999 at 05:43:34 (PDT)

Hi from LisaB. Man, on man. For a second I thought I was on the PregnancyToday board with all these raging hormones (concerned and Crystal). Nothing much new this weekend - Max is still teething and was really whiny. He has taken to his cow's milk well (mixing it with breast milk) and is decreasing his nursing more everyday.

SARAH: Max also throws temper tantrums. The major ones are when you take paper away from him so he won't eat it and when you make him lay down on his back to change his diaper and to dress him. Based on how he acts now I'm REALLY dreading the terrible 2s!

JENNI: The disposable camera is a good idea. The sitter takes pictures with her camera but only develops her film every 6 months or so. Max was around 4 months when he got his exersaucer and he used it for 2-3 months.

MERA: I'm sorry DH isn't more understanding. Talk him into taking a day off and then leave for the morning to go shopping, run errands, etc. That'll open his eyes as to how hard it is to accomplish much of anything when you're watching a baby and a 6-year old.

CRYSTAL: I must agree with "concerned" that your marriage seems like a high school romance. You guys don't appear to trust each other and it appears that you tend to avoid things rather than talk them through. Also you seem to mention a lot that other guys hit on you and that you've considered affairs - instead of stating you are committed to your marriage (and to God who commanded you be faithful to your DH - even if he is a jerk sometimes). I completely understand, however, how hard it is when you guys live so far away. I know it creates some trouble for my marriage just having DH gone for a week at a time for work … and he calls EVERY night. I'm glad DH will be with you in a few months. Please feel free to discuss anything you want to on this board - including your uncertainity, fears, joys, etc. related to Doug or e-mail me directly. You have a lot on your plate right now and considering what your family and friends appear to think of Doug it's probably best if you discuss your feelings with an impartial person than with them. If "concerned" or anyone else doesn't like your posts they can just skip over them.

BARB: $200 a week - WOW! Where do you live? I pay $4,800 a year for Max - about $92 a week - and it'll go down once he turns 2. I hope you find a good daycare soon or get the extended leave. Working is hard enough when you have a sitter you like and trust - I can't imagine being gone all day if you didn't have a good sitter. I understand you wanting to work. Ideally I would like to go part-time. I would love to be home more but I really NEED to get out of the house, talk to other adults, etc. I like the challenge of my job - exercises my brain! DH and I also like "The Sopranos"! That brace sounds awful. I remember when I crushed my nose in the 8th grade (basketball accident). They rebuildt it and I had a full cast on it. I couldn't blow my nose for a week due to the stitches - so of course my sinuses started draining. It was so nasty and gross that I convinced Mom to let me stay home from school - my teenage hormones and self-esteem couldn't handle letting anyone see me with all that dried snot!

SHANNA: Thanks for the e-mail pictures! I hope your sunburn gets better quick!

PATTY: I'm so glad that WW is sleeping through the night! That biting sucks big time, doesn't it? Max is waving also - he gets excited and starts waving with both ends. Max gave up his paci a long time ago but just this weekend he started sucking/chewing on his thumb again. I think it's just from teething thou. He woke up 3-4 times last night with his teeth, crying and whimpering, but put himself right back to sleep! How are you going to spend your garage sale money?

MORIAH: I remember you saying on PT that you HAD to go back to work as you couldn't afford to stay home. I wonder if you could do data entry or something similar on your new and speedy computer - medical transcription, etc.? Just an idea. I know I would LOVE it right now if I could hire someone to plan Max's 1st birthday party … as I don't have time to do it. I would think there's a big market for that - you could do bridal and baby showers, birthday parties, anniversary parties, etc. My babysitter does this part-time with one of her friends - they call it "Parties by Sarah". They research facilities, make all the arrangements with the banquet hall or whereever the event is held, do the food, do the decorating, etc. The sitter doesn't make much off of it as she only works part-time but the other lady seems to do well at it - she's always busy and drives a nice brand-new fully decked out Jeep Grand Cherokee. Another idea would be to go into cake decorating, if you are creative.

KATY: I'm glad Liam survived his fall. Isn't it amazing how they don't cry unless they think they'll get sympathy?! We have Max's mattress one notch from the bottom and I need to lower it again as he's constantly standing in the crib once he gets up, trying to climb out. What a chore L

KAY: I'm glad to hear you are feeling better. Your camper comment reminds me - the preacher commented at church yesterday that lightening stuck a tree which fell on a lady's camper (she's a regular at church). She's 4 months pregnant and the tree broke her pelvis. They hadn't heard if the baby was ok yet. Her DH's leg was broke.

ANGIE: Welcome back - I've missed you. Yeah for DH's big raise. I'm glad you and Tommy weren't hurt when you car died. How is your friend (Marty ?) doing?

NANCY: I've read somewhere that they are infants until 3 months, are babies until 12 months, and are toddlers until 24 months. I love my ISIS also but am so gad that I'm about ready to pack it up (Max is starting on whole milk so I'm pumping less). I also never REALLY realize what a time consuming pain it would be to pump at work.

JAYME: I cut and paste all the new posts into Microsoft Word and then type my comments as I read the posts - less Internet time and convenient. People mail Shanna pictures of them and their babies. She scans them on the computer, makes cute color pages with captions and all, and mails them back out. Her deadline is around the 25th of each month - e-mail her and she can give you all the details. August will be my last month, as I'll be graduating to the Toddler's Today board, so I'm hoping a lot of people participate this month so I can "see" everyone!

LisaB & Max (11 and 1/4 months)
email: lisa_lab@hotmail.com
Monday, August 09, 1999 at 07:17:58 (PDT)

Hi everyone, Louise here. Thanks so much to all of you for your advice re. the heat, it was helpful, but guess what - it's freezing and raining again today! Guess we all got fooled into thinking we lived in a hot climate! Cloudy skies just in time for the solar eclipse on Wednesday.

James is now finally saying 'Mama' - but how come when he's happy and laughing it's 'Dada', when he's whiny and tired and it's 'Mama, Mama'! Typical!

Just a couple of personals:

Kay - Sorry I'm a bit behind, as ever, but I really wanted you to know that we are all thinking of Kelsey, and including her in our prayers. Words can't express how I feel for you - sometimes I can't believe what people have been through - but I want you to know that your little angel daughter is in the thoughts and prayers of all my family and friends, thousands of miles away across the ocean.

Crystal - don't want to stick my nose in as we haven't been 'cyber' friends for very long, but do keep sharing you feelings with us all. Aside from your relationship, I think you give great advice on babies, and I always feel great when I read your mail - Darrel sounds so like James; James has also been a 'teenager' since birth! I really feel like I never had a newborn - he's always lived life to the max and now is definitely more of a toddler - at nearly 9 months - than a baby - right down to the temper tantrums!

Patty - I really sympathise re. the Ferber stuff. I'm not familiar with the term but I think it's what in the UK we call 'Controlled Crying Technique', CCT, where you reassure the baby that you're still around, pat them, calm them, but don't pick them up or rock them back to sleep, and gradually extend the period that you leave them until they learn how to settle themselves. We did this with James and it was HARD - and I promise you, if you think Jarin can be a monster, James is the king of the monsters! So active, alert, full of life, but, it has to be said, occasionally king of the whiners! LOL. Back to the sleeping - my Health Visitor gave me some advice (in the UK, Health Visitors are pediatric nurses who work in the community, visit you for a couple of weeks after the birth, run baby clinics and generally deal with behavioural and minor health issues that you may not want to bother your Pediatrician with). My HV runs a sleep clinic, and she said that the best thing to do was to make sure you wake your baby at around 7.00 each morning, however often they've been up in the night, and then don't let them return to the cot before 9.00 am. Although it's futile trying to impose a schedule on young babies, this kind of routine will help them to establish a sleeping pattern where they sleep until 7.00 ish, then nap after breakfast and again after lunch, and are ready for bed about 7.30. She felt that some babies really need this kind of guidance. It really worked for James - it is hell on earth getting up at 7.00 if he's been awake at 5.00, but if DH can help out, it should only take a few nights .... James isn't now on a strict routine, but he does sleep from about 7.30 until 6.30/7.00 am, and is much happier for it (so am I!!). He does still whimper in his sleep though. Good luck, I feel for you!

Moriah - I used to be an events planner, and then worked in Marketing for Deloitte & Touche. I still do some freelance work for them. Why don't you contact your local Visitor and Convention Bureau and see if they have any need for some freelance planners? You could maybe do venue searches etc. Likewise, some of your local 'blue chip' firms may have a need for this - I know we used to use freelancers a lot. You could also maybe investigate doing venue planning and organisation for weddings and special events, you can often do 'deals' with some of the larger hotels whereby you recommend them etc.








Louise & James
Monday, August 09, 1999 at 07:59:56 (PDT)

Good morning ladies! SARAH here. Boy, we had a great weekend!!!! DH and I spent alot of time together! It was so nice, seeing as he works 3 nights/week and plays softball 2 x's.

HANNAH started drinking whole milk this weekend. She still has formula 1st thing in the morning, and last thing before bed. She loves it!! She also started saying 2 new things. One is mama! Man, does that melt my heart!!!! :) The second thing is actually a sentence. She says "What is it?" It's clear as day. It's soooo cute! I think she's cuttin 2 teeth. Well, one has come through, but the other one hasn't yet. These will be #7 and #8. She was Miss Clingy this weekend. That was okay, though!

On to personals:

CHARLINE - How was the beach Saturday?

BARB - I would take an extension if you can. It will be worth it. Don't put her with any one you are NOT comfortable with!!! Plus with the extra care she needs. Hey, another Real World buddy. I love that show (I don't know why!)

SHANNA - Again, thanks for the collage! Great job!

PATTY - I'm so happy JARIN is sleeping better!!!! I hate it when HANNAH throws her tantrums. It will probably only get worse. :( HANNAH bites alot. She's been doing it for over a month now. We just tap her mouth, say "no bite!", set her down, and walk away. This devastates her! I think HANNAH and JARIN were meant for each other!LOL

MORIAH - HAPPY 10 month BIRTHDAY ALEX (on Saturday)!!!! :) I'm glad the shower went well.

KAY - I'm glad you and DH go to this "camp". I think about KELSEY almost everyday!

ANGIE - Welcome back!! Oh my, 17 lbs. He's a big boy! :)

JENNI - I'm glad you had a great date!

NANCY - You only gained 28 lbs? I gained almost 50!!

MERA - I bled for 5 weeks after.

LISA - Those are the same things HANNAH throws tantrums over. She HATES having her diaper changed! You should see the things I do to try and make her happy when changing!! LOL I'm sorry to hear about that lady at your church. I hope everything is okay! How many times do you give MAX whole milk during the day? And, how much?

CRYSTAL - Please don't stop posting your feelings. That's what we're here for. If you don't feel comfortable, please email me anytime.

LOUISE - You work for Deloitte & Touche? My boss works with them. Perhaps you know him.

Okay, that's all for now. I'm on a conference call, and haven't been paying attention because you all know you guys ARE more important!!! :)

Talk to you all later!!

Sarah and Hannah (11 months!)
email: smoore@geatoir.cfer.com
Monday, August 09, 1999 at 08:36:35 (PDT)

Good morning from Rita.

We had a pretty good weekend. We are starting to do several projects around the house getting ready for Amy's Baptism on the 22nd. At least the weather warmed up enough yesterday so that we could have the girls outside while we worked on our sadly neglected back yard. Since I will not be PG this year, maybe I can keep up with the backyard.

I got to see some of Amy's temper firsthand this weekend. Maddy grabbed a book that Amy had and she began to scream very loud. Somehow I don't think that she will have a problem standing up to Maddy.

Happy Belated Birthday First Birthday to Franchesca! Happy Ten Month Birthday to Alex and Liam! All the PT babies are growing up so fast. where has the time gone?

Moriah - My good friend got a certificate in event planning. She hasn't found a position because she is looking for fulltime work at a high level. I think there were several parttime positions or contractor type positions that she came across. With your background in marketing you probably have alot of connections. I have always toyed with the idea of doing some catering, especially teas and children's parties. There's also The Pampered Chef. (By the way, if you have one of those parties, let me know...)

Angie - Good to see you back. I was wondering about you and Tommy. Hope that your friend Marty is doing well.

Becky - Well hello, stranger. Did the fair go well? I can't believe that Harley is almost one. I guess I'll see you on the TT board soon. We'll be going up your way for the Rennaissance Faire at the Nut Tree soon.

Well, I had better get back to work. Take care everyone!



Rita & Amy(7 mos)
email: ritad@home.com
Monday, August 09, 1999 at 08:49:21 (PDT)

Hi everyone! Barb & Haley checkin' in on a Monday! I have to go to the store with Haley today - I bought the wrong size diapers -LOL! It will be good for this nervous mommy to get out. Haley sounded very stuffy today when she woke up, but it seems to be better. Maybe I should call the Pediatrician anyway? I'm working on getting Haley to sleep through the night - she went 7 hours last night! Yahoo! I actually think she has the potential to go the entire night, but I feel guilty about it because she will be only 5 weeks tomorrow (she was only whimpering a bit when I got up to feed her.) My sister says I shouldn't worry because Haley was such a big baby. I'm sure she's over 10 pounds now.

JENNI (& AD too!): Do I qualify for the family leave act if I already took off 13 weeks for maternity leave? The break down is this - 2 weeks before I delivered (I was on bed rest for most of it), 8 weeks after a C-section, 2 weeks of my vacation time that leaves the extra week I threw in there. Do you or anyone know if I get to extend my time with the 12 weeks of family leave after that?

NANCY L: Hi! Well, I gained way more than you, but I'm down to about 15 pounds to pre-pregnancy weight that seems to be going nowhere (that would include the 10 pounds I packed on before my first appointment with the doctor!) I think these are the ones that one has to work very hard at getting rid of! If you thought the other MIL stories were good, I've got little Haley working with me now - MIL came for just a few minutes the other day, but wanted to hold Haley while she was here. Haley was in her swing, awake so I said OK. MIL takes her out of the swing, and Haley never stopped crying the whole time MIL held her! LOL! After she left I changed her diaper and put her down for a nap!

ALLISON: I will email that word document of my birth story.

LISA B: I think the question is where do you live? How quick can I pack & move? LOL. I live in New Jersey- on the central west side of the state, not too far from the Delaware River. Might as well be NYC for the cost of living.

I better go. I have Haley busy watching "Baby Mozart" she loves it! Thank goodness, because I don't think I'm a great mom when it comes to teaching. BTW, Hello to everyone - I'msorry my posts are so short - and seem not to speak to everyone, but I will get "up to speed" on life soon, I hope.



Barb & Haley (5 weeks)
email: barbconner@blast.net
Monday, August 09, 1999 at 09:32:41 (PDT)

Hi mommies. Can I just start by saying I love my baby soooooo much??? Jarin was so cute last night. I gave him his bath and then we were playing in his room together, reading some books, etc. Pretty soon DH came in, then DD, and then DS. So we all sat in Jarin's room for about 1/2 hour. He is also now running away from me when I get him out of the tub. So this naked little body goes running around upstairs. He is so cute. He slept almost 8 hours the past two nights. I only heard him a couple times and he went back to sleep. Oh, my little sweetheart.
**Kay: I hope you enjoy yourself at the bereavement camp. I'm sure it probably does you good to be around parents who have gone through the same thing. Jarin is sleeping better. Yay! Hard to believe that only a week ago we just started this and he was up 3 times a night still!!!!!
**Shanna: Hope you get your painting done. Yuck. Our house needs it already too and we've only lived here two years. Lesson: NEVER paint with paint that you can't scrub!!!!
**Angie: Tommy is really growing. I'm glad you are doing well. I was also wondering how Marty is doing.
**Jenni: Glad you enjoyed your date with DH. I hope Nicholas gets those teeth in soon. I swear Jarin has been working on #7 & 8 forever. Yep, our little cat-eating duo would have quite the time together.
**Moriah: Sounds like you had lots of fun with the shower. I'm sure you would be great at planning things like that. I'm glad you got to hear all the "oohs" and "aahs" over Alex. You and he deserve it! At the back of my Parents magazine there is a phone number you can call for medical transcriptions you can do at home. I can look up the # if you are interested.
**Nancy: I think that brown line on my stomach lasted about 4 months. I know how you feel - someone leaves an older baby in my house every day too. =(
**Jayme: Sorry your dh has to go to the field. I'm sure you will miss him. How long will he be gone?
**Katy: HAPPY 10 MONTH BIRTHDAY TO LIAM!
**LisaB: Yes, Max and Jarin are both the waving and biting maniacs, huh? Hmmm, how will I spend my fortune in garage sale money? I already spent some when we went out to eat. That's probably where it will all go. Such a wonderful expense, huh?
**Louise: Glad it is cooler there for you. James sounds so cute talking. He does exactly what Jarin does - "mama" when he's whiny and "dada" when he's Mr. Happy. CCT sounds just like Ferber. That schedule sounds good except when I have to go back to work in 9 days, he won't be able to take a 9 AM nap. =( I will miss that cuddle time every morning.
**Sarah: That is so cute that Hannah says "What is it?" Jarin really doesn'st say anything. He is also working on #7 and #8 teeth, but still no luck. Yep, Hannah and Jarin sound like they were meant for each other. And diaper changes? Jarin can definitely fit in that club too.
**Ok, gotta go. DH is on vacation this week, so we are going to do something. Take care everyone. Hey, where has Candance been?
Patty and Jarin - 1 year in 19 days!
email: tematheny@ctlnet.com
Monday, August 09, 1999 at 09:50:26 (PDT)

Hi, SARAH again. Quick response to BARB. I know you can also take a leave of absense (30 days). That's what I did. I had the 13 weeks maternity leave and then a leave of absense. I don't know if this helps. You should call your HR department.

Good luck!

Bye!
Sarah again
Monday, August 09, 1999 at 09:58:24 (PDT)

Hi, it's Birdie. Hope everyone is well. Looks like the board had an interesting weekend. Hope evryone is feeling better. Reminds me of the old "Manon" days on PT. I'm sure some of you remember. I wonder what she's up to these days. I miss her crazy tales. Anyway, had a baby shower here on Sunday for my SIL. It was a lot of fun. This week part of my job is taking one of our Special Olympic athletes on a whale watch. Poor me. We're going Thursday. My mom is coming down to baby sit for the day. It should be a lot of fun. DH and I are hoping to go see the Blair Witch project this week. everyone says it's really scary. Have any of you seen it? I want you all to know i am totally over my bad day i had last week. I was just feeling isolated and unappreciated and out of the loop. My office had gone to this special luncheon and never even told me about it and I just felt bad. ANyway, i am sooo lucky and very grateful. Who needs luncheons when you can share a jar or pureed sweet pot.
Jenni- Noah always has a handful of cat hair. I am constantly chasing him trying to clean his hands before he puts them into his mouth.
Mera- I made a list for one week of everything I did during the day and just laid it on the table for Dh to see when he got home. He was pretty amazed. The other thing that really helped was to have him spend an entire day at home without me. He was totally in charge for the day. i pumped bottles and went out for the entire day. That taught him a lesson very quickly.
Rebecca- I feel so hormonal. It's very sad but improving. We are down to 2 nursings per day. I cuddle him a lot when he has his bottle. it's just not the same though.
Barb- I know how you feel. When i'm not on the pill AF comes every 15 days. Yuck!!
Moriah- Poor Noah is still toothless. Not even a sign of anything coming. I am sending you a ton of stuff on working at home and on possible home jobs etc...
Kay- I have never heard of a camp like that. what a wonderful idea. I hope you have a very nice time.
LisaB- paper!!! it's the worst. Noah tears up any paper he can get his hands on and loves to eat it. I don't even know where he finds it some times. Our living room is often covered in torn up newspaper on Sunday mornings.
Rita- hello
Barb- Noah also loves baby Mozart and baby einstein.
Crystal- looks like you had some trouble on here over the weekend. Don't stop writing about you and dh. Who else would you be able to tell this stuff to? You obviously need to talk about it and try to sort it all out. It usually looks to me like you are typing what you are thinking. kind of like thinking out loud, and that's why it often sounds crazy. I do agree with the others though that you need to start looking at your relationship more like a marriage. a marriage is a very serious thing and it needs to be worked on daily, not when it's convenient for everyone involved. good luck. When DH gets out in Sept is it for good? Will you all be living in the same place? Will he be looking for a job? How old are you guys? What's his surgery for? How long will he be laid up? There, that should keep you busy for a few minutes.


Take care!
Birdie and Noah (8 months)
email: LJU777@AOL.COM
Monday, August 09, 1999 at 11:12:20 (PDT)

Good afternoon Mommies, Jenni here, I have got to stop working!!! Today at lunch time there was a shoot out infront of my building. Apparently someone tried to rob the back next door and went around the back of my building when the cops were chasing him and shot him. Right infront of the building. I do not need to near this anymore, all I want to do is go home and snuggle with my little man.

Hope everyone else is having a better day


Moriah - A party organizer sounds great. Let me know if you have any ideas on a baptism party. Nicholas has his baptism on Aug 29, and I have no idea what to do afterwards and I am short on $$

Nancy - I still have my dark line too and about 15 pounds of "baby boy" fat to lose (I gained 55 pounds with him) so you are not alone. I hear it takes 9 months to put it on, expect it to take that long to lose it.

Katy - Happy 10 months Liam!!

Shanna- What is the deadline for pictures and how do I get them to you??

LisaB - $92 a week for day care? Where are you from and how long will it take me to move there? We pay $200 a week and it is a friend of mine who only watches Nicholas and her 1 year old grandson.

Barb - The way I understand it is 8 weeks after a C section is disability, don't count your vacation time, then you should get the 12 weeks family leave. But to be sure contact you HR person. Good luck. I live in NJ too, closer to NY though, Union County, but I work in NY.

Patty - I can just picture your "Cat-eating Naked Baby" running through the house all slippery and wet, too cute! I'm waiting for the day Nicholas does that, as of right now he loves being "Naked Baby" he laughs and laughs, or is he laughing at me??? LOL

Well, I guess I should pretend to get some work done. One of the sales guys just quit, paperwork, paperwork...I would much rather be changing diapers right about now.


Jenni and Nicholas (3 months old)
email: njemtjen@aol.com
Monday, August 09, 1999 at 11:31:01 (PDT)

Hello everyone. Yep, it's Julianne board jumping again. Colton slept through the night last night. YIPPIE. I hope this continues now. He is just full of it lately. Really keeps me on my toes. He too hates to be changed. I hardly get him to lay still on the changing table. After his bath we play "catch the naked boy". His favorite thing is to race to the couch (fake leather) climb up like a monkey and stand naked in the window pounding.

Barb: I am a benefits manager in Human Resources. Here is some info on FMLA: It is 12 weeks per calendar year. It includes disability time, but not vacation. You have to have 1 year of service to qualify. A company can grant you a leave of absence in addition. I would get that in writing, espicially stating your job is guaranteed. Check with your supervisor and HR to get all the facts. Every company has different policies. Hope everything works out for you.

Have a great week mommies & babies:)
Julianne & Colton
email: jjones@batts.com
Monday, August 09, 1999 at 13:06:29 (PDT)

Vikktoria here:
Zelda is "talking" more and more; especially if she is left alone in her bouncy chair (I don't mean completely alone of course, I am usually across the room trying to get some housework or personal cleanliness accomplished). She must do it to amuse herself.
If Zelda is beginning to teethe, what should I be looking for in her mouth? Inflammation? Redness?

KATY: So sorry to here Liam took a dive out of his crib but glad he is okay.

PATTY: Perhaps Jarin heard "the call" from above.

KAY: I hope you enjoyed your camping experience; be sure and tell us about it.

SHANNA: How old is Annie Grace again?

ANGIE: Welcome back!

NANCY L: My "black line" disappeared about 21/2 months after Zelda was born.

BARB: If Haley seems stuffed up you could suction her nose with one of those blue rubber things (what is the official name?) they give you in the hospital.

BIRDIE: Though I wasn't crazy about the ending, I thought the Blair Witch Project was so creepy I had trouble getting up to go to the bathroom in the middle of the night...I was actually a little freaked out!

Vikktoria & Zelda (3months,1 week)
email: vcrist@adaclabs.com
Monday, August 09, 1999 at 13:28:10 (PDT)

Good afternoon Mommies!!! Well, I had a nice weekend of carpet cleaning. I really like the new machine we got, easy to use, and the end result sure looks nice. I didn't have to do the stray scruffy dog as he must have wandered back to where he came from. It looks like I will be picking up a new dog on Saturday though for the rescue agency that I work for. It is just really hard for me to say no!!!

We had a little bout of constipation with Cale. He hadn't gone since Thursday but today "The General Was Able to Deploy the Troops" (if you've seen the Drugstore.com ads you'll know what I mean!!)LOL.
We are now adding a small amount of fruit juice to his daily diet. Evidently, just having the fruit wasn't enough for him right now. The Dr said that it is just his system adjusting to all of the new foods and that it should straighten itself out in the next couple of months.
Our weekend was great though with lots of time spent playing and laughing. I just never could have imagined how much I would love this little guy!!!! He makes me so happy!

No personals today but just a couple of general posts.

On Marriage - I think the part in Runaway Bride (for those of you who have seen it) where he says something about how "There are going to be hard times" pretty much hits the nail on the head. We went through counseling prior to getting married at out church and we were pretty much told how marriage is a job and you have to work really hard at it. I didn't think much of it at the time, but I really belive it now. I love my DH very much, and although sometimes he makes me so mad that I would like to just smack him, I never want to be without him and I will always try my hardest to get through whateve it is we need to. I believe DH feels the same way since we have talked about things like this allot.

On this board - I just want to thank all of you mommies out there for your wonderful advice; your kind, listening ears and most of all the support that you show for everyone else on here. I don't know where I would be right now (probably pulling out what little hair I have left) if I hadn't had all of you to pose questions to and vent my frustrations. I am constantly recommending to the new moms that I know to find something like this to use as a resource.

Well, enough out of me. I really hope that everyone has a great day!!
Julie J and Calen ( 4 1/2 months)
email: JulieJ@Quebim.com
Monday, August 09, 1999 at 14:13:35 (PDT)

Hi everyone!

Busy weekened we had. Alot of packing going on. Adriana starting saying Da Da yesterday. It was so cute I wanted to cry. Gosh babies grow to fast. Well the day is almost here and then we have to move. I hope I meet alot of people in San Diego. This is all so new to me. Anways, once I get settled I will need to buy a computer. On to my posts:

Jayme: When does your husband go out to the field? For how long? Are you afraid to stay alone? Dont you get lonely?




Tara and Adriana
email: Cudlebun@aol.com
Monday, August 09, 1999 at 14:31:16 (PDT)

Hey ladies. I miss you all so much! I am demanding that all you with 11 month old babies hurry and come to the other board because it is very boring over there right now.I am STILL sick and sick and tired of being sick. I have been on antibiotics for 7 days now and have been sick for 10 days. Well Dillon is getting those 4 teeth in now and that will make 12 for my little shark. He is starting to talk more and more now. He shakes his head no and tells us no or uh uh. It is so cute. he is growing up way to fast for me. I love him so much and find it so hard to believe that the little angel came from me and Jay. It is truley a miracle when it comes to babies isn't it? Well I am going to go for now. Take care everyone and give the babies a hug and kiss and tell them Aunt Tracey loves them.
Tracey and Dillon
email: battnt@worldnet.att.net
Monday, August 09, 1999 at 14:43:46 (PDT)

Hi Mommies! Shanna checking in... finally some posts on the board, it was sooooo quiet over the weekend! FOR EVERYONE who is submitting pictures.... the deadline for August is going to be the 27th! If you need info please email me! I found Annie a new pediatrician today, I'm so glad, I got fed up with her old one because they couldn't squeeze her in for her first set of shots, which really ticked me off, they weren't going to get her in until end of August where she would have been 4 months old. She couldn't get them when she was supposed to because of her kidney stuff and now she needs them and I don't want to wait. So the new Ped got her in for next monday! YEAH! She hates the taste of her new anti-biotic which makes it so hard to get her to take it... anyone needing a tip for making their baby swallow medice.... blow in thier face, they gasp and swallow it... works great! Other than that, I look like a walking paint sample from all the painting i've done and i've still got 4 more rooms to do YUCKKKKKKKK! Someone please come help me paint!

Moriah- you should be come a planner, how fun and what a great working from home job!

Nancy - that same person visit's my house everynight too... i wish the bugger would leave my little tiny baby alone! I wish she could stay like this! They get big toooooo fast!

Allison & Jenni... see dates above! We'd love more pictures!

Sarah - how exciting to hear Hannah little voice say mommy, i just love it, it gives me goosebumps because that is so special, enjoy it!

Vikktoria - Annie is 3 1/2 mos. now! Wow time flies huh!

Crystal - I hope you haven't left the board, I think everyone here was just concerned about you and Darrell.... :)

Well enough for today, I have to go move furniture back in place that the carpet cleaners didn't move!
Hugs
shanna & annie grace
email: shanna1@earthlink.net
Monday, August 09, 1999 at 15:22:00 (PDT)

HI it's Moriah & Alex. Finally some posts around here! It sure was quiet this weekend.

UGH! Today is just a sucky day. Geoff is being such a pill. I'm so frustrated with this whole attitude that because I'm a SAHM - everything needs to be perfect (ie: clean house, happy baby, me with my hair done & make up on, etc). Just once I'd love to leave him alone with Alex for 24 hours & see just how great things were when I came home. I'd want the house spotless, dinner cooked, the grocery shopping done (without spending any money of course!), 20 oz of fresh expressed breast milk, a clean & happy Alex, bills paid on time & what the hell - a winning Lotto ticket. Men - can't live with them - can't flush them down the toilet. :) Anyway the DH (NOT dear husband!) left here in a huff without telling me where he was going or when he plans on returning - I HATE that!

Jennie - the Babtism party ideas: Depending on the time of day you can have the babtism - if you're short on $$ try to plan in a non-meal time frame. Like maybe an afternoon tea. That way you just serve beverages, cookies, maybe small sandwiches or small cold hors derves. Also a good $$ saving meal is brunch. My MIL has a recipe for a brunch casserole that is to die for. Plus bagels & scones are pretty reasonable.
Also you can save a ton by doing the invitations on your computer - just buy the decorated paper & print right on it, fold them up & decorate plan white envelopes with stickers or rubber stamps.
You can make the cutest favors with the Wilton candy making supplies. Do a search on the net for "Candy Making Equipment" and you should come across several sites that sell molds & all the supplies. Many had religious molds that would be perfect for your occaison. I like to make the suckers & then put them in a small platic cover bag (you can buy those on the site) & tie it shut with a ribbon. You can make tags on your computer also that you could tie to the ribbon to mark the date & event.
Let me know if I can help you out anymore. These are just real general ideas that I've used on parties before.

Birdie - I'd LOVE to get the info on working at home. I'm pretty scared that I'm not going to find something. Here there seems to be very few companies that just want to hire a new person to work at home. I'm determined to find something though.

Lisa B - I'd take just about anything to work at home. Data entry is fine. I'm on the job hunt now. Yes you're right I couldn't afford to stay at home before.

Hey who mentioned Manon? I miss her too. I keep hoping that we'll here from her. Her little guy must be about to turn 1. I miss Dana & Megan too. I have Megan's email address - I'll drop her a line.

Yes things got kind of snippy around here this weekend. :(.
Moriah & Alex (10 months)
email: geoffandmoriah@msn.com
Monday, August 09, 1999 at 16:25:31 (PDT)

Good evening everyone, Charline & Hayden here. We had a busy weekend. My inlaws came to babysit Hayden on Saturday and DH and I went to Maine to go to the beach. The traffic was horrible and it took us 2 1/2 hours to get there, then the sun went in and it was chilly, but it still was nice to get away with DH. My SIL came on Sunday to visit and just left now. We had a nice visit. I just bought Hayden an exersaucer yesterday at K-mart and he doesn't know what to make of it yet.

Barb-It's nice to hear from you.

Shanna- Thanks for your hard work. I'll let you know when I get the pics back. DH and I did have a good mini vacation. Thanks for the wishes.

Patty- That's awesome that Jarin is sleeping so good now!!! I'll continue to send the sleep vibes your way. I'm not looking forward to when Hayden is mobile in church. I think that most toddlers like to run around in church. It is such an open area. Right now he sometimes cries, but we can just give him a bottle. Jarin sounds so cute running around the house naked.

Moriah- Happy 10 month Birthday to Alex! I hope that his teething goes quickly for the both of you. That's great that you got a new computer. You must be so psyched.

Katy- I'm glad that Liam is ok. What a scare for you and DH!

Kay- Your welcome. That camp that you are going to on Friday sounds like a lot of support. I hope that you have a good time.

Angie-Welcome back!

Jenni- Your welcome, I'm glad that you had a nice time. That's scary about the shooting in front of your work building.

Moriah- I'm glad the shower went so well.

Sarah- That's cute that Hannah said mama. The beach was ok. It was mostly cloudy and chilly, but it was nice to get away with DH for a few hours.

Barb- That's great that Haley is sleeping 7 hrs!

Julianne- That's great that Colton slept through the night for you.

Tracey- It's good to hear from you. Dillon sounds so cute shaking his head and saying no. I hope that you feel better soon.

Well, I hope that everyone has a good night.
Charline & Hayden(4 months old today!)
email: djl@mediaone.net
Monday, August 09, 1999 at 17:03:21 (PDT)

Crystal here. No I haven't left the board. I didn't even drop off the face of the earth. My parents have been home all weekend, so I couldn't get on. The last time that I was on while they were home, my dad yelled at me for being on all day (1 hour). So, I told him that I'll just wait until he's not home before I get on the computer so he can go on the internet. Needless to say, I need to get a good job so I can get my own apartment and a computer and internet access.


Okay, for those asking: I'm 20 years old. I'll be 21 at the beginning of the year. Dh and I got married about 6 months after I got out of high school. Dh is 22. Yes, we got married rather young, but we have lasted a lot longer than most people had thought we would. They gave us a month. It will be two years on Christmas Eve. Dh is going to have surgery done on his back because he's 22 with the back of a 40 year old. His back is degenerating faster than the average person's. I don't know how long he will be unable to work or anything. That's why I'm looking for a job that will pay me enough to support my family if he's unable to work. However, he should be getting hefty disability checks from VA and maybe even free training to learn a new trade. He's a mechanic right now and would love to continue working as such. However, that has a lot to do with his back being so messed up. I'm surprised that it's not broke by now. And no, I'm not going to continue living with my parents after Doug gets here. It will be a major explosion if we did. Doug does not like my mom because she goes on and on about everything, even when some one is visibly upset about something. And, neither of my parents like Doug. In fact, when I told them that I was going to hold off on the divorce, they got all huffy and puffy about it, saying that I should have married a doctor or a lawyer and not a low-life mechanic. And Doug has even fixed one of their vehicles and taught them how to take care of their cars, something they never learned how to do. And had I not met Doug, I wouldn't know how to change a tire, check the fluids, rotate the tires, bleed the brakes, or clean the brakes. I've even helped him with replacing shocks and struts. Granted, I hate working on cars, but if I help Doug when he's working on a vehicle, it means that we get more time together and that he doesn't have to work so hard and risk hurting his back any more than he has to.

I'm still new when it comes to relationships with men, or rather overgrown boys. I didn't start dating until I was 16. Before Doug, I had only had 6 relationships with guys, the longest lasting only three months. Three of those six only wanted sex. One ended up cheating on me because I wouldn't put out, and the other one was a player anyway. The other one of those three jjust spread rumors around saying that we did. One of the other three was just playing around when he asked me out, but then after breaking up with me, he spent the whole rest of the school year trying to get get me to go backk out with him. I spent the rest of the school year beating him up. Then, there was one guy I met my Senior year, and I really cared about him. But, he broke up with me after three months but said that we could still be firends. He started treating me like dirt and didn't want anything to do with me. We're friends now because after Doug and I got married, I only called him about three or four times and never bothered to write to him. Things simmered down between us, and we still go to the same church and talk after church. The final guy started out as a good friend, and then we started dating. Well, then, he started to ignore me, so we broke up and stayed friends for a while. Up until Doug, my longest relationship lasted only three months, and my shortest one was a mere two days. So, being married is a big step up for me, mostly because I was at the point in my llife in which I thought that no man could ever love me. I thought that I was the ugliest person alive because I couldn't keep a boyfriend. But Doug kept telling me that I'm beautiful, that I'm an angel, and that I'm the love of his life. He always told me that he doesn't see how I could love him because he doesn't deserve me and that I deserve better. Of course, for the longest time, I thought he was just full of it. But he says it even to this day still. Before we got married, I almost left Doug because I was scared of letting him get too close because I didn't want to be left the way I had been with a broken heart in the past. Of course, I never did. And yes, Doug and I do talk things out whenever we disagree. I have a bad habit of yelling alot, but I think that a lot of it has to do with the way I was raised. I grew up around a lot of yelling and throwing things. I'm not trying to make eaxcuses about my yelling. I just think that I got into that habit because that's what I knew as a child. At first, I didn't realize it. But Doug talked to me about it one day when I was calm. He grew up in a non-yelling family, so I'm sure it's hard on him whenever I yell. However, since Doug has brought it up to my attention, I have been working on it, and he knows that it's going to take time and patience for me to quit yelling. I have gotten a lot better about it. We normally just sit down and talk when there's a problem and he's actually home. That's the big thing right there. He's never around, and it's not related to the military. Of course, he's not here right now,but that's different. I'm talking abut when we lived under the same roof.

Well, anyway, that's enough for now. Darrel will be one in 14 days, and Doug will be home within the next 50 days. I'll talk some more later and answer some posts later.


Crystal and Darrel 1 year in 14 days
email: cjeanmurphy@yahoo.com
Monday, August 09, 1999 at 17:13:39 (PDT)

Good evening mommies...when does our day end??? Get up, make breakfast, feed baby, change baby, get ready for work, drop baby off, work, pick baby up, do dishes, make dinner, feed baby, bath baby, play with baby, entertain dh, feed cat & ferrets, litter boxes, read to baby, pack bag for morning, make lunches, pee, check board...it never ends and I want to have more kids? AM I crazy?? Sorry needed to vent while dh (not dear) is watching baseball and pre-season football.

Birdie - Blair Witch was great if you are into weird creepy things. I loved it. Go see it if you can, don't wait for video you need the theater. What is it with our boys and eating cats?

Moriah - Thanks for the advice, DH and I liked the sandwich/cookie idea and my mom makes chocolate candies. She made dolphins and baby things for my shower. I'm going to ask her to do stuff for the baptism.

Charline - What part of Maine did you go to? My SIL lives in Bar Harbor and we try to go at least once a year. I love it there. So peaceful and laid back. My building made the news with the shooting, scary. DH works in same building...made us think twice about both of us being in NYC while Nichoals is in NJ. Maybe I can quit(wishful thinking)

Crystal - I'm glad you are still here. This is your life and your marriage and the father of your son, you do what ever you feel is best for the 3 of you. Whatever makes youhappy. We are here to support, not bagger you. 14 days until the 01 huh? Any plans for a party?

Well, I guess I should go feed somebody...cat, husband?? Nicholas is in bed already(9:15pm here) so maybe I can sneak into the bath tub and soak for a while. Good night. Hugs to all of our little angles.

Jenni and Nicholas (3 months old)
email: njemtjen@aol.com
Monday, August 09, 1999 at 18:12:50 (PDT)

Darrel has not been very happy. His teeth that he's trying to cut are giving him hell. The teething tablets help some. At least he'll take them. His gums are so swollen that they look disgusting. My mom says to not worry about it because it just means that he'll be getting more teeth soon. He has a slight fever, but he always does with his teething. But I still worry that his gums could be a bit infected. Has any one ever heard about gums getting infected during teething? Darrel has been so clingy lately and always wants to be held. He's always loved to be held but has never demanded it until now.

We had a scarey experience at church last night. I haven't been going to church very often lately, but I decided that I needed to yesterday. In the morning, Darrel was so good. He sat there and listened to the preacher. Then last night, he was clapping and dancing to the music, just like everyone else. He'd raise his hands up in the air, and I gave him my car keys to play with so he won't travel all oover, and he started to mmake music with them. He was just so exdcited. Darrel also was yelling in church, which is acceptable at my church. I'm Pentecostal. But during the sermon, he leaned to far forward in the pew and before a friend and I were able to catch him, he already landed head first. I picked him up and ran out the back door so I wouldn't disturb the service anymore than it had been and comforted him outside. After he had calmed down and I calmed down, I did a full body check to make sure nothing was broken or tender and check his vision and range of motion. Everything was okay. Darrel was just scared and being tired and cranky from teething didn't help anything. So, we went back into church and I held him for the rest of the service.
Crystal again
email: cjeanmurphy@yahoo.com
Monday, August 09, 1999 at 19:04:54 (PDT)

Hi mommies. Patty again. My little naked running boy is bathed and in his diaper. He is quite the funny man. We went to eat at a Mexican restaurant today. He was climbing on the table and slamming spoons on the table. Good thing it wasn't very crowded. He was climbing all over me again tonight and laughing like crazy. He is so funny.
**Birdie: Glad you are feeling better. I knew all along that you were grateful to get to work at home and be with sweet Noah. Jarin also always has handfuls of cat hair!
**Jenni:That is so scary that you had a shootout by where you work! I'm glad you are ok. I agree with you about a mom's day never ending. You forgot about how when you crawl into bed dh thinks it's time for SEX! I hate to make you guys even more jealous, but our daycare will cost us $60 a week.
**Julianne: Yes, we play Catch the naked baby. It is so cute.
**Vikktoria: I hope Jarin heard "the call" and continues to hear it. LOL. Zelda sounds cute making more noises.
**Tracey: I hope you feel better. I will be there soon!
**Shanna: I hope the "Paint Fairy" stops in at your house. LOL. Glad you found a new pediatrician. I hope you like him (her?) better than the old one.
**Moriah: I was really LOL at your men comment. So funny. Manon was due the same day I was. I often wonder how she is. Sorry Geoff is not being so dear today. Hope he feels incredibly sorry and humble when he returns.
**Charline: Glad you had a nice weekend with dh. Yes, since Jarin is mobile, he is quite the monster in church. I told dh it is getting about time to go shopping, out to eat, and to church without Jarin.
**Crystal: Glad to hear that Darrel is ok after the scare at church.
**Ok, night night everyone. See you tomorrow.
Patty and Jarin - 11 months
email: tematheny@ctlnet.com
Monday, August 09, 1999 at 20:50:25 (PDT)

Jenna was 5 months old today. How fast they grow. She is the most wonderful thing. Tonight she got in a silly mood and just laughed so hard at nothing even funny, if we even just looked at her she laughed, it was so cute!! LOL. It just amazes me how quick she changes and learns new things. Just in the last two weeks she has mastered rolling over both ways, sitting up totally unsupported, and gets up on her hands and knees and rocks back and forth. She will be crawling very soon. I love to watch her sitting up, she sits up for a long time playing with her toys, she has great balance now. I missed a few days of posts as I have been sick, got mastitis. I ran a 102 fever and it was quite painful but the Doc gave me some antibiotics and I am much better. Have any of you that breast feed ever had this problem? I hope this was a one and only for me.

We are getting ready to buy Jenna a walker, can anybody suggest a really good one? I guess they are all basically the same but there sure are a lot of them to decide from.

I just found out my sister is pregnant and her due date is on Jenna's birthday. We are so excited about another new baby coming.

I am thinking about having another baby sometime. I read that it is best to wait 18 months before getting pregnant again. Have any of you had yours closer together and how was it? I am getting too old to wait very long! Would like to be in a position to stay home if and when I do decide to have another one.

Crystal - Glad you are still here (hope you stay)and that Darrel was not hurt! He sounds like such a cutie. You mentioned something about teething pills, have not heard of it please let me know what you were talking about, my Jenna is starting to teeth so any help would be great!

Kay - It makes my heart glad to hear you are doing so well. That camp sounds really great. Are you going or have you already gone? I missed the details but would love to hear about it. Hannah is such a pretty name, she sounds like such a precious baby.

Bye-Bye for now.


Judey (Jenna, 5mo)
email: judey99@yahoo.com
Monday, August 09, 1999 at 23:21:28 (PDT)

Hello Kahne here,
I havent posted in a few days because I am mad. I am mad about my mother in law always butting in, I am mad because I get no help in the house, and I am mad because the one place I come to for sanctuary(here), was ruined for a few days. I know a few weeks ago, Candace and I had a little mix up, because I worded something incorrectly. But that has since been resolved in a PRIVATE and MATURE way. And I feel I have to say one thing. I am sorry if this makes the situation worse, but I want to put my two cents in. Whoever you are Concerned, it was so wrong to do that to Crystal! You do not live her life and you dont know how she feels. You kicked a person while they were down! All of us come here for support on whatever we are feeling, and there is not a single one of us who has not complained about our DH at one time or another. But, for some reason, all other complaints are taken in stride, but one person comes, and is really hurting and looking for support in a very difficult time, and you speak to her like a child! And you don't even have the guts to put your name! I am sorry if I am being rude, mean or violent, and I am sorry if yall want me to leave after this, but Concerned, HOW DARE YOU JUDGE!!!!! We all have problems, and now I am afraid to voice my problems in fear I will be shot down. Concerned, what you said was totally unneccesary, and if you felt you really needed to say it, you shoud have E mailed it privatley, and not humiliated her in front of everyone. I am sorry once again, but I am sure there are a few people that agree with me. Concerned I would have mailed this to you privatley, but how could I ???????? I hated to do this, and I am sure that I have made some enemies, but I have always been taught to stand up for waht I believe in, and I believe in helping others, not hurting them. I hope we can go back to the way the board was, and if everyone can do me a favor, if you have to say something that may possibly hurt someone, please do it privatley and discreetly.
Kahne
Kahne and Cat 7 months
email: skcx2@fnbop.com
Tuesday, August 10, 1999 at 00:02:44 (PDT)

WHOA!! What's happening to this board??? Can't we all just get along?? :) :)

HANNAH has been sooo clingy lately. I think maybe it's because she's afraid I'm going to leave her. I mean, she's just fine all day when I'm at work, and then I come home and she's crabby and soooo clingy. Won't even go to DH. Bless her little heart.

TRACEY - I miss you so much over here. I'm sorry you're still not feeling well. Get better!!! I'll be over on the TT board real soon. :)

JULIE J. - Your last post was so nice!

TARA - Good luck with the move. If I didn't live in Colorado, I'd live in San Diego. I LOVE it there. Where are you moving from?

SHANNA - I'm glad you found a new ped!!! I do the same thing with HANNAH when she's taking medication, although she kind of likes to take medicine. Go figure!

MORIAH - I think alot of DH's act the same way. You're definitely NOT alone!!

CRYSTAL - Glad you're back!! :) Like I said, please feel free to email me ANYTIME!! Like I said above, HANNAH's been real clingy lately, too. I'm glad DARREL is okay after his fall. How scary!

JUDEY - HAPPY 5 month BIRTHDAY to JENNA yesterday!!! :) Yes, I've had mastitis and it's miserable!! Congrats on your sister being preggo. That's neat she's due on JENNA's birthday! You were asking if any of us had babies close? There's about 5 people on here that are preggo again. Alot of them don't post anymore. You can get Dr. Hyman's teething pills at Rite-Aid, Walgreens, etc. You mentioned on KAY's post that HANNAH is such a cute name (HANNAH is my little girl) You may have meant KELSEY.

KAHNE - I agree with you that we should privately email people when there's a major disagreement. "CONCERNED" probably could have handled it a little differently.

Hey, where's BARBARA, CANDANCE, JOY, DEEDEE, MIMII' and alot of others?

Also, I forgot (oops) but who just found out they're preggo again??

Talk to you all later. I hope everyone has a good day!!!

Sarah and Hannah (11 months!)
email: smoore@geatoir.cfer.com
Tuesday, August 10, 1999 at 05:58:23 (PDT)

Nancy L. 7 Andy here,

Andy woke up again at 3 am. What did I do to deserve this?

I've been trying to capture Andy's smile but so far no luck. Today I had the camera out and as soon as the wide toothless grins started the batteries went dead.=(

Barb-I've heard the 'nine months up, nine months down' thing too. I didn't gain any weight the first 3 months then I went home for Christmas and gained 10 pounds in 2 weeks on my mom's cooking. That is no doubt what I am still carrying around...this should mean I only need six months to get back to me. And I was pg only for 8 1/2 months...so maybe 5 1/2 mos? *S. Are you starting an 'uptight mommy club?' If so I'll be the charter member. LOL. About the not wanting to go out with the baby bcs you're scared of germs, be glad you don't live here. Andy is a real babe magnate. They all want to touch his pale skin. They hold his hands even when he's sleeping in the front pack. And I'm sure I don't have to tell you all the truly nasty diseases that are rampant in Bangkok.

LisaB- So I only have 19 more days of 'newborn'. Boo hoo. He's so big already (11 pounds +) I don't know how I can hold him to nurse much longer.

Crystal-Sounds like you are on the right track now. I've been married 20 years and I can tell you the first six years are the worst. We got married in our 20's and they said it wouldn't last either...but look at us now. Good luck girl. If you can discuss things with Doug that is a very very good sign.

Don't let an anonymous comment scare you away from here. There were a few toxic comments on the PT board when I was there and it almost made me quit bcs they upset me. But when I saw everyone's reactions I decided to stay. I think we use these boards because we feel safe here bcs we know that we'll get unconditional support. And by and large that is true but every once in awhile we touch a nerve... Don't let it stop you from venting. It helps me to crystalize my thoughts by writing them down. I guess that's what you're doing too.

Who's starting the 'baby covered with cat hair' club? I guess I should apply for advance membership. It's just a matter of time for us. LOL

Nancy L. & Andy (10 wks)
email: nls@loxinfo.co.th
Tuesday, August 10, 1999 at 07:09:16 (PDT)

It's LisaB. The paper yesterday said the American Academy of Pediatrics is recommending that kids watch NO tv until they are 2 years old ... need interaction with people instead, etc. The editor wrote in his column that that just isn't feasible in this day and age and that a tv or lack thereof does not indicate the level and amount of interaction the child has with his parents and caregivers - AMEN!

I want KAHNE, CRYSTAL, CONCERNED, and everyone else to feel like they can post ANYTHING here - postive, negative, indifferent, etc. We are basically a support group and should support each other through good times and bad. Considering the response CONCERNED got I don't blame her for staying anonymous. I must say I agree with several of her comments (and NO - I'm not "CONCERNED" - look at my past posts and you can see that I post my opinions) but I think she should have been more tactful and considerate of Crystal's feelings and could still have gotten her point across. I honestly hope that if someone thinks I'm whacked or being preachy, etc. that they will post telling me to get off my soapbox, to mind my own business, etc.

CRYSTAL: 1 hr = all day? Doug is "beneath you" socially and you deserve "better"? Yelling and throwing things as you were a kid? I agree with you ... you'll be much happier in an apartment. Plus Darrel will be in a more nurturing environment. I love my parents to death but couldn't stand to live with them after being on my own for awhile. My parents don't sound as bad as yours but they aren't really "happily married" anymore and I swear they act like children - try to irritate the other person, tell me stories on each other, etc. I think a lot of your problems, as I've said before, are due to Doug being so far away and him not being there (emotionally and physically). It sounds like you may have a low self-esteem problem also, due to your childhood and past relationships. Subconsciously (sp?) you may be sabotaging your relationship as you don't think you deserve to be happy. Well, you DESERVE to be delirously happy. Your posts make it obviously that you are a GREAT and LOVING mother to Darrel and a real friend to Libby and others. You are a good person and have NO REASON to feel bad about yourself. On a lighter note, I'm glad Darrel survived his fall ... I bet your heart stopped there for a minute. Max's gums have been almost white for 2+ weeks from teething - his molars on the bottom.

SARAH: WOW - an entire sentence! Hannah sure is smart. Max has bottles at 9am, noon, and 3pm at the sitters. The noon one is only 2.5 oz and the others are 5 oz. I'm putting 4 oz BM and 1 oz cow milk in the bottles now and after 4-5 days will decrease to 3 BM and 2 CM, etc. I'll continue decreasing my milk and increasing the cow milk until he's just on cow milk. I'm still nursing in the morning and night but Max is starting to refuse these feedings some so I think he's ready to wean. BOO HOO :-( He's also starting to refuse his bottles so the sitter is working with him on the sippy cup.

BETH: Are you BFing? If so, you need to nurse at least every 3-4 hours during the night to keep up your supply and as your baby digusts breastmilk easier and quicker than formula (plus baby still has a small stomach at 5 weeks). I live in Central Missouri.

PATTY: Jarin sounds so cute running around naked - you need to take a picture and submit it to Parents (had something in my latest mag about wanting bath pictures for future issues).

JENNI: That shootout is so scary.

SHANNA: I got your e-mail; thanks! Shanna e-mailed me my pictures that will be in her newsletter (Max, me, and DH). If anyone who isn't getting the newsletter wants them either post so here or e-mail me and I'll forward them to you. BTW, I HATE Seattle Filmworks (the 2 rolls of free film). You HAVE to have them develop the film and it costs more than K-Mart, Wal-Mart, etc. to develop them - even considering the free film.

VIKKTORIA: Yep ... inflammation and redness (or white when the teeth are real close to poking thru) are signs of teething.

MICHELLE: Is that your Riley in the baby face gallery? What a doll!

BECKY: Is the Harley in the baby face gallery yours? If so, she's beautiful!

TARA: It's great that Adrianna is saying DaDa. I'll miss you when you move - I'll probably be on ToddlersToday before you get a computer and hooked back up:-(

TRACEY: Hey, if you'll going to be demanding I will also - I DEMAND that you get well soon.

MORIAH: I'm sorry that Geoff was such a jerk. Do you think he was just having a bad day and/or being a butt for the heck of it - or is he stressed out over money (as your disability is about to run out) or jealous that you get to spend more time with Alex than me. I know my DH doesn't discuss his feelings and is just a real ass sometimes and I don't know why. After I calm down from being so mad at him I realize WHY he acted like he did and then we can talk about the issue(s).

JUDEY: Jenna's getting so big and grown up! Get a wide walker that won't fit through doorways or one where you can lock the wheels so she can't fall down stairs, go off down the hall when you turn your back, etc. It's great that Jenna will have a little cousin soon.

I either need to quit rambling so much or post more often - are you guys tired of all my novels yet?! Everyone have a great day!

LisaB & Max (11 months)
email: lisa_lab@hotmail.com
Tuesday, August 10, 1999 at 07:26:03 (PDT)

MORIAH: OOPS - another MOMMY BRAIN incident! I meant that you spend more time with Alex than Geoff. Obviously you spend more time with Alex than I do (as I've never seen him)!
LisaB
Tuesday, August 10, 1999 at 07:29:40 (PDT)

Me again! Quick question to LISA:

How much whole milk should I be giving HANNAH? Do you know? Right now I give her 6 oz formula first thing in the morning and then about 20-25 oz whole milk throughout the day, then 6 oz formula before bed.


Sarah again
Tuesday, August 10, 1999 at 07:49:08 (PDT)

SARAH: My doctor just said to gradually decrease the amount of formula/breast milk in each bottle while increasing the amount of cow milk. She didn't give me any total amount to give him so I decided to do the 20% cow milk for 4-5 days, then 40%, then 60%, then 80%, and then 100%. That way it's gradual and he adjusts to the different in the taste between breastmilk and cow milk. Max takes about 12.5 oz of milk at the sitters, about 4.5 oz. of juice, and then 3 nursings a day so I'm guessing he takes in around 25-30 oz of fluids a day. I hope this helps!

LisaB
Tuesday, August 10, 1999 at 08:14:14 (PDT)

Good morning all. I have limited time to post this morning so I have one question to ask.

Cale has always been a tummy sleeper. I know back is best, but when he was so colicky and only sleeping 15 min at a time the Dr said that we should try sleeping him on his tummy. It worked great and he started sleeping through the night the first night we tried it.
My problem is that now, since he can roll over, he will sometimes roll onto his back and just start screaming. Most of the time this only happens when I first put him to sleep. He will sleep about 5 min then roll over and start screaming. He usually won't do it in the middle of the night.
Has anyone else had this happen? Should I just let him cry and get used to sleeping on his back? Now, I go in and roll him back onto his tummy and pat his back until he falls asleep. I tried letting him cry last night but he wouldn't stop screaming.

Any input would be greatly appreciated!!

Have a great day!
JulieJ and Calen ( 4 1/2 months)
Tuesday, August 10, 1999 at 08:25:46 (PDT)

Me again!! Boy, I must be bored at work, right?
Just a response to JULIE.
HANNAH was the exact same way. But it was the opposite. She was a back sleeper and then started rolling on her tummy. When she did this she would SCREAM. She hated it. I would go into her room and roll her over, too. Every time I would roll her over she would just be back on her tummy within 5 minutes or so and the same thing would happen all over again. So I had to just let her cry and get used to it. She got used to it within a couple of days.
Hope this helps!!

LISA - Thanks for the info!!!


Sarah AGAIN!!!
Tuesday, August 10, 1999 at 08:49:45 (PDT)

Good afternoon ladies,

No gunfire today outside my building...but I'm not going outside at lunch anyhow. I went on a little shopping spree this morning The Childrens Place was having a sale, so Nicholas now has "back to school" clothes. I got him the cutest pair of 5 pocket jeans and t-shirt. I can't wait to put him in this little outfit. This morning he was giving raspberries and his opinion to everything and laughing at everyone, including the cat who just wanted to be fed not eaten!! :0)

Crystal - Glad to hear Darrel was okay, how is he feeling today?

Patty - $60?!? I am jealous, for that I will move NOW

Judy - Happy 5 months Jenna. I think about having another baby too. My doctor said it's best to wait 18 - 24 months. Gives the body time to recover fully, but other people have done it much sooner.

NancyL - Andy is an "associate" member of the "Boys who eat/wear cat" club. So far its Noah, Nicholas Jarin and now Andy. What is it with our boys and cats???

LisaB - Shoot-out was wild. Apparently the robber was killed and 1 bystander was hit in the butt. I want Combat Pay

JulieJ - What about using one of the wedge things to keep him from rolling over onto his back. I use it to keep Nicholas from rolling onto his belly. Half the time he sleeps on his side anyway.

Real bored at work today...wish I could get AOL at work and play games or something. Have a great day!!!!
Jenni and Nicholas (3 months old)
email: njemtjen@aol.com
Tuesday, August 10, 1999 at 08:59:21 (PDT)

Hidy Ho Mommies and Babies-

JulieJ- Andrew is also a tummy sleeper. That's because of his reflux- and both the regular ped and the specialist agree that in his particular case it's safer for him. He is able to roll from front to back (I seem to think that babies who sleep on their backs can usually go from back to front first, but I may be wrong.)

In any case, when he is 'ready to be awake', he rolls himself over and then sings for a little while. When the singing changes to a kind of whine, it's time to go and get him.

At night, when he's not calm enough to sleep, he'll roll himself over and cry. Or a couple of times, he'll do it in the middle of the night. Sometimes all it takes to get him to go to sleep is to put him back on his tummy. Other times we tell him "It's time for rest." If this doesn't work after a few minutes, we pick him up and try something else to get him to chill out. If worse comes to worst, I lay down with him lying on top of me, and breathe really deep and slow, like I'm asleep. I guess b/c he thinks I'm asleep, then he's not missing anything.I have noticed lately, that he's been getting up a bit more in the night. Like last week one night at 1:30, then 1:30 and 3:30, and then this morning at 5:30. Eek!

Like last night, we knew he was tired, and he just couldn't get settled, so I went downstairs, pulled out his stroller, and ran him around the block. When we came back I rang the doorbell, and DH came down, picked him up and put him right into bed, where he slept till 5 AM. (He went down around 9:30). Then I had time for a small cleaning fit.

Don't know if that helps, but..

LisaB- About FILM- If I get free samples in the mail, or whatever, I check the end of the canister. If it says "Process C-41" then that is the standard that most places can develop. If it says something else, I don't bother with it because only certain places can deal with it.

OK, Gotta go. Got my first desktop publishing 'job', although it's volunteer....


AD, Andrew (4 months) Stinky Potent Foul Dog
Tuesday, August 10, 1999 at 09:36:13 (PDT)

Good morning from Rita.

Amy decided to wake up at 2:45AM and didn't want to go back to sleep. I am wondering if she isn't finally teething. I noticed a nice white area on her upper gum. It's a strange place for a first tooth, but I don't think that it will pop through anytime soon. Her teeth must all be moving into the gums at this point. She is also "gnawing" on me these days. (Ouch) She is as bad as Maddy was - she doesn't let me look in her mouth.

Patty - "Naked Time" after baths is very important. Maddy always likes to make a run through the house before it's time to put on jammies and comb out her hair. I have been very bad about going to church because I know that neither girl would do very well. I certainly could not bring both of them by myself either. (Larry isn't Catholic).

Judey - I had mastitis twice this time. Luckily I was on antibiotics for another infection at the same time. Use a heating pad to help ease the discomfort.

Jenni - Amy can be a member of the club, too. She just loves to reach out and grab our cats whenever she can. They are finally getting used to her. Just wait until they learn that she can follow them!

Well, gotta get going. Take care everyone!

Rita & Amy(7 mos)
email: ritad@home.com
Tuesday, August 10, 1999 at 09:46:31 (PDT)

Rita again.

Moriah - I am sorry that Geoff was being difficult. I always hate it when guys stalk off and don't say where they're going, etc. I am sure that he really knows how much you do, he was probably stressed. I hope that things are better today. Let's see if we can plan a get-together before cold/flu season begins. Maybe after the wedding in Sept?

Rita & Amy
email: ritad@home.com
Tuesday, August 10, 1999 at 09:53:43 (PDT)

Crystal here. Not much new is going on. However, I do feel like I'm running a day care. Practically everyday, I'm watching at least one other baby. Most of the time I don't mind because it gives Darrel a chance to play with the other playgroup kids one on one. And, it gives me a chance to get used to having two kids for when Doug and I decide to have another baby. It also gets Darrel used to other kids. I didn't have a chance too socialize much as a child, so I didn't develop some important social skills until later, and with some, I'm still working on developing. But right now, I'm babysitting Carmen. I don't normally charge for watching my friends babies because they are all such a joy to have. However, Carmen is a handful, and I think it's because of the fact that she doesn't get disciplined very often. Her mom just laughs whenever she hits one of the other babies or whatever she decides to do. But, Carmen has been very good for me today so far. She's hit Darrel a few times, and I just grabbed her hand and told her no hitting. If Darrel were to do the same, I'd do the same to him that I do to Carmen. But, Darrel pretty much knows better because I established the rules early.

Darrel did do something cute this morning. I was getting him out of his jammies, and he was trying to help me get his shirt off. So, I got the shirt half way over his head and let him finish taking it off. Darrel is now sucking in air and making that annoying sound. If you're not sure what I mean, just draw some air in through your trachea. And Carmen thinks it's funny to bang her head on Darrel's head. Silly kids. The cute thing, though, is that whenever one of them takes a drink, they both decide to.

As for a party for Darrel's birthday, I have it all planned out. Well, at least mostly. I'm inviting all the kids from the playgroup and their parents. Then, I have two very cloose friends from my church whom I'm inviting. And, of course, my parents are going to be there. My dad is going to fire up the grill for hot dogs and hamburgers. There will naturally be cake and ice cream. the kids are too young for much social games, but we're just going to let the babies play with Darrel's old toys. As for his birthday toys, I'm thinking of unwrapping them (if he doesn't) and letting him play with each for a ffew minutes and then put them up until after most of the guests leave. I just don't like the idea of having a free for all with Darrel's new toys. even now whenever he gets a new toy, I don't let other babies play with them for two or three weeks. I figure that would be long enough for the toys to be "old" but not so long that it seems selfish. Darrel's cake will be Winnie the Pooh, and so will his decorations. I wanted Baby Mickey, but I couldn't find anything with him. Don't get me wrong. I love Pooh. I just want something different for Darrel. His room was done in Pooh, but that was because my parents bought everything. Doug and I were debating on either having his room done in Pooh or with bears or Looney tunes. but everything that my parents buy for Darrel is Pooh. It's like there's nothing else that a baby can have besides Pooh. So, I normally don't buy Pooh for Darrel. My parents will more than likely buy it anyway if they see it. When Darrel gets his toddler bed, I'm going to redo everything and get sheets and everything in what Doug and I want. It's going to be the same once we have another baby.

To the anomynous person: I do not hate people. I hate the things people say and things people do, but I don't hate people. I believe in forgiveness. Sometimes it takes me a while to forgive, but I eventually forgive. I've had other people on this board who have said things that have offended me or hurt my feelings in one way or another. However, they were normally in a bad mood when it happened. Either that, or they didn't realize that what they said could hurt me or didn't have a better way of sayig what they felt needed to be said. One lady in partictular said something that offended me, but we worked things out via e-mail. Now, we're making plans to meet. I would appreciate it if yu could e-mail me so we can get things worked out.

That's all for now. I have two cranky babies. Fun........NOT!!


Crystal and Darrel 12 months in 13 days
email: cjeanmurphy@yahoo.com
Tuesday, August 10, 1999 at 10:18:25 (PDT)

Good afternoon. This is Birdie. Hope everyone is well. Just a quick hello. Lot's of work to do today. Has anyone evr heard of the Little Dolphin School? One has just opened near my home and I am going to check it out tonight. I think there is one in New York also. The one here will be for all of New England. Just wondering if anyone has heard of it. I'll let you know what I find out.
Take care.
Birdie and Noah (8 months)
email: LJU7772AOL.COM
Tuesday, August 10, 1999 at 11:08:24 (PDT)

Hellooooo. It's Moriah & Alex. Alex is sleeping in his baby gym right now. I tell you - that's been just the best toy. I hang all sorts of things from it and put him in there when he's attached to his g-tube. That way he can roll around & not have to be confined. He LOVES it, although now he's so strong that he can pull the toys right off so I'm constantly having to go over & rehang things as he fusses.

The nurse is coming to weigh Alex at noon. His last weight was just on Friday - 13lbs 6 oz. He's getting so big. It's hard to imagine him at 3lbs 12oz now - when I look at those 1st pics I'm amazed at how far we've come.

Here's a question for all you guys with 13-14lbs babies: How many oz do they eat in 1 day? I'm having a heck of a time trying to wean Alex off his continuous night time drip by changing all his feedings to day time. The Dr says he should eat 32 total oz every day. But that seems like too much based on his weight. Sometimes I feed him so much he just throws up & I feel horrible. How'd I like to be feed til I puked? UGH!

Geoff came home & we made up. He was just being a butt. Sometimes we just spend too much time together since he's self employed & I'm at home. But all is okay now. I think that Lisa B is right too that he's jealous because I spend so much time with Alex & sometimes Alex is much more interested in Mommy. Oh well I'm sure that will change when he's older.

Thanks for all the words of encouragement from everyone on my ranting about Geoff. I know that everyone goes through it at one point or another.

Rita - even before the wedding might work. I don't have your number anymore because it was caught in the crash of my old computer. Call me if you have mine or I'll email it to you.

Well I have a couple leads on the job front so I've got to get going on my resume this morning. Chat again later!
Moriah & Alex (10 months)
email: geoffandmoriah@msn.com
Tuesday, August 10, 1999 at 11:31:33 (PDT)

Hi All,

And yet another quiet day in the neighborhood. Olivia's been sleeping since about 1:30 -- it's almost 4:30 now. I'll probably get her up soon so she won't be up until midnight.

All this talk about Ferberizing. That doesn't start until about six months, right? and Louise, does the CCT start around the same time?

Did I tell you guys that my search for the little soft baby photo album was a failure? Went to Chapters and described what I was looking for and the girl working there handed me a baby memory album and asked if that's what I was looking for. Duh! Then she went over and just stood back and just looked at all the soft baby books that I had already checked. She just shook her head and said,
Allison and Olivia (12 wks)
email: finnamor@nbnet.nb.ca
USATuesday, August 10, 1999 at 12:22:36 (PDT)

I am so saddened and upset. I just went home for lunch and saw footage on a daycare shooting in California. They showed the daycare workers being escorted out of the bldg carrying small children and other children holding hands walking out and crying. I was just sobbing and am still crying as I type this. I will never be able to understand what kind of person could do something like this. Being a parent, I agonize for the parents of the children at that school. What they must have felt like wondering if their child was okay. I don't know what I would do if anything ever happened to Cale. I try to protect him the best I can and I am sure those parents did also.

I'm sorry if I brought anyone down, but I just had to talk about this.

Thank you.
Julie J and Calen ( 4 1/2 months)
email: JulieJ@Quebim.com
Tuesday, August 10, 1999 at 12:29:31 (PDT)

Hello Kahne here,
No Violence I PROMISE!
I am sitting here laughing my butt off at the battle of the laundry. MIL is desperatley trying to fold laundry, and Cat is determined to unfold it. For all who asked, My wedding is Labor Day weekend, Saturday September 4, and shcool Starts on August 18, only 8 short days away! I am nervous as all hell! I got my bouquet yesterday, will have to take a pic of it and scan so yall can see it. I got it early for the picture taking session before the wedding.
Cat is such a stinker! She is so trying to walk it is not funny! She will stand on her own now, and very rarley uses more than one hand to hold on when she does hold onto something. Well I need to call the Dentist for DH, so I gotta run!
No hard feelings anyone, I love you all!

Kahne and Cat 7 months
email: skcx2@fnbop.com
Tuesday, August 10, 1999 at 13:02:52 (PDT)

Bet you'll never believe who it is in a million years. MEGAN! Surprised? So am I. I received an email from Moriah. She said you all miss us here and I told her I miss every one too.
I scanned the posts back to Friday and there sure are a lot of new people on here.
Well, I guess I'll give you a Benjamin update. He turned 9 months old on July 29th. I can't believe my baby is approaching toddlerhood. I told Moriah it seems like yesterday when I was holding my little 5 pound 3 ounce newborn. Now I hold a nearly 22 pound chubster! He is also 28 1/2 inches long.
Ben weaned himself completely from the breast about 3 weeks ago and I'm feeling so sad. For a month before that he was down to nursing just once in the morning so you'd think it wouldn't be so hard for me but it is. I guess I'm feeling guilty that I'm not still pumping and giving him breastmilk in the bottle. Does anyone know if it would be possible for me to bring back my supply for pumping? Ben got his first cold over the weekend. Of course, I am blaming this on the fact that he doesn't breastfeed anymore but I know kids get sick. Anyway, he must have a pretty good immune system because so far, the cold is just in his nose. Now today, I'm feeling crappy. My glands are swollen and I think I may be starting a sinus infection. I hope not.
Anyway, I've been slow to introduce finger foods to Ben but I'm going to get on the ball this week. His daily diet consists of formula, cereal, fruits, and veges. We tried giving him cheerios and he picks them up but doesn't know to put them in his mouth yet. I've also given him mashed avocado mixed in with his other veges. I've also tried yogurt which he hates. Lately, he's been balking at his cereal and will gag and spit it all up sometimes. I do have the "Super Baby Foods" book and I like it a lot. It has lots of good nutrition information.
Ben's physical and mental development is going well too. He is crawling now but not the four on the floor style yet. He mostly drags himself along or he will get up on all fours, take one stride forward, then collapse. He sure can make it across the room quickly however. Time to seriously start babyproofing the house. He has not started to pull up on furniture yet but I'm sure that's not too far off.
Ben loves his books! We read to him often. He will pick up a book, point with his index finger and start babbling. It's so cute! He also knows what "birdie" and "Max" means. We have a parrot named Max and if you say "where's birdie" or "where's Max", he points right to him. He also loves "Tickle Me Elmo" and knows Elmo's name too.
Next month we are enrolling him in "Music Together". It is a movement and music class for children from birth to age 4. They have programs all around the country. Any one ever heard of them? Anyway, Ben will be about 11 months old when it starts on Sept 20th and he loves music so I thought it would be good for him. Speaking of music, I play classical whenever I feed him and he really loves the Nutcracker music. Whenever the CD starts, he turns his head and is mesmorized for a minute or so before he begins eating.

Well, I'm doing ok. Still feeling a little stir crazy from time to time being a SAHM. I really need to do something part time from home if possible. I noticed some of you were talking about this subject. I would love to hear any ideas. I have a BS in Zoology but it looks like I won't be using that anytime soon. I would eventually like to work for a nonprofit or something when Ben is older.

Hey, has anyone who has recently weaned had problems with your period? I am having one right now that's lasted a week and I had just gotten over one 2 weeks ago before this one started! Is my body just adjusting or what?

Well, I guess I'll go now. No personals this time but I really am going to try and post as often as possible.

I hope to get to know all of the new people and renew my friendship with my old buddies.

I would also like to be part of any mommy list or newsletter so can some one e-mail me on what I need to do?

Love you guys,

Megan and Benjamin (9 months July 29th)
email: dtandmm@slkc.uswest.net
Tuesday, August 10, 1999 at 13:13:26 (PDT)

Vikktoria here:
Don't forget everyone to include your babies' ages after their names...I wish I could remember them all but I can't. It helps me to read the posts of other babies Zelda's age so I gain needed information or offer suggestions to them.

TARA: I don't know if you've mentioned this in your posts but why are you moving to San Diego and where from?

MORIAH: Actually do it...leave Alex with DH for at least 8 hours so he can see what it is like. I did that with my DH and he learned right quick what I went through her first 2 months!

CHARLINE: Sorry the beach was cloudy and cold but glad you and DH had a good time.

JENNI: What is it with these DHs who happily watch t.v. (or whatever) while the mommies slave away? If my DH tried to pull that I would separate his head from his body!

JUDEY: Congratulations on your sister's pregnancy. If you don't mind my asking, how old are you? I am 37 and because of my age we are going to try to have our second child when Zelda turns one year old.


Vikktoria & Zelda (3 months)
email: vcrist@adaclabs.com
Tuesday, August 10, 1999 at 13:14:07 (PDT)

Hello from LauraB -

WoW I haven't posted since Thursday and boy did I miss alot.... DH's not so dear, babies turning into cats, MIL's and marriage advice. I would like to just give an open word of advice on marriage that I have learned in my 13+ years of marriage. NEVER discuss the terrible things your husband has done with your family. They will naturally take your side and forever think that your husband is a jerk.
Shane is going to start the dog and baby club. He is eating my dogs food now and making the poor thing bald by pulling so much of her hair. That she puts up with it so well is to her credit, she is 13 yrs old and very cranky. I expect one of these days she is going to bite him because he has just gone that one step too far. Knowing Shane he will just look at her and then start pulling her hair again.
I have to say that my DH has been pretty good about coming home and seeing the house a wreck. This has alot to do with the fact that on the weekends he spends alot of time with Shane. Then I say to him "Just imagine having to do this all day." And he realizes that being a SAHM isn't so easy.
Well gotta go shower. Remember when you use to be able to do that when you wanted to??
LauraB@Shane 9 months
email: xxbryant@aol.com
Tuesday, August 10, 1999 at 13:29:06 (PDT)

Barb & Haley checkin' in ...Thanks for your responses JULIANNE, JENNI &SARAH I probably should have mentioned that I work in a small office. I work for my County Chamber of Commerce. There are 4 full-time people and 2 part time. There is no HR, just a "Personnel Committee, " but they are very fair about everything. I will have to bring a proposal to the Chamber President first, then she will bring it to the next board meeting.

The "sleep fairy" has been visiting our house. Haley slept from 9:30 p.m. to 5 am last night/this morning. I gave her a bottle at 5, she was back in bed just after 5:30 and slept until 9 am! She didn't do so well with her morning nap (suspected gas bubble), but is cranking out another good nap now (afternoon.) She's also starting to go to sleep with a lot less fuss. Last time, I just put her in her crib. No crying at all - her eyes were open when I put her in! She's been drinking almost 5 oz at every feeding too. I have to believe it has a lot to do with the Baby Wise method I've been doing with her. If you guys want a rundown on the basic theories, just email me. I'm not saying that this is it - she's just reached a new stage of going to and staying a sleep much better. YAY!

JULIE J: ROFTL on "the General." You must watch as much TV as I have been lately! Why don't you try rolling up small blankets to keep him in place, just like an infant? Or am I being naive about how babies roll?

TRACEY: Isn't it good to stop and sniff the roses sometimes? Our little ones are so precious!

CRYSTAL: I know it must be hard, living with your parents. Especially because they are not very supporting of your marriage. No marriage is a piece of cake. So, even though every situation is different - many people are in the same boat as you - keep working on it (as long as he isn't physically or emotionally abusive - that's intolerable.) BTW, at my house DH is the "yeller" in our relationship. I'm the quiet one. Keep coming here to vent. It helps!

JENNI: The answer to your question is never. Lucky us! Did you say you live in Union County? I'm in Hunterdon. Come live and work here like I do - crime is almost non-existent! It's the day care costs that get ya!

NANCY L: Good News! My excursion out with Haley yesterday went great! I even managed getting the stroller in & out of the trunk twice! My sister had given me one of those "4 in 1" systems - you know the car seat/carry bucket/stroller/bucket snaps into stroller from Graco. I just put Haley in her bucket in the car, then snapped it into the stroller and went into the store. It has this cool feature the bucket had a hood, and so does the stroller part. If you use them together, you can keep all the sun off the baby (or prying hands at the store) there is even a little window so I can look at her!

AD: We were on the same schedule last night! (see above)

Well, I better go get something done. I just got off a 2 hour phone call with my SIL, my brother's wife in CA. She is due any day, and if she doesn't go into labor before Thursday, they will just do a c-section (she's a high risk history) They don't live far from those shootings!


Barb & Haley (5 weeks)
email: barbconner@blast.net
Tuesday, August 10, 1999 at 13:32:26 (PDT)

Hi mommies. I forgot to tell you all that I went out to school yesterday to try to get some stuff ready. Of course I couldn't (They wouldn't let me in my roomas they are STILL waxing floors). Anyway, on the way out I just had this awful feeling - like a steel vise around my heart and stomach. Then as I walked up the blacktop, I got all teary-eyed. I am going to miss my little Jarin so much. I told DH, "You know, at one time I thought I would miss my job. Now I couldn't care less if I never went back until Jarin went to school". I can't tell you guys how much I am dreading this. When we were eating yesterday, I started tearing up again! UGH! And I know how good I've had it - I got a whole year to stay home, so I shouldn't be complaining.
**Judey: Happy 5 month Birthday to Jenna. She sounds so cute with all her laughing. Ooooh, mastitis. That's a word to send chills down my spine. Can you tell I had it too?
**Sarah: I'm with you. Let's just all get along on here. Sorry to hear that Hannah is being clingy when you get home from work. I'm sure she just misses you. =) It was Teresa who just found out she is pg again.
**Nancy: I agree with you too on the "toxic comments" that were on PT. I posted there until I was about 20 weeks pg and then it got so negative I quit posting.
**LisaB: I would love to see your pics! Gotta keep track of my little guy's almost birthday partner. Amen to that editor - 2 years without TV? Give me a break. I already have naked pictures of Jarin, but after someone was saying something about turning people in, I thought I'd better not say anything. LOL. Tell me more about who wants these photos for something?
**JulieJ: I'm sure not everyone will agree, but I would just roll him back over and pat him. 4 1/2 months is pretty little to be crying himself to sleep. I think Ferber starts at 6 months. That is so sad about the daycare shooting. Again, I ask, "What is wrong with people????????????"
**Jenni: LOL at Nicholas getting "Back to School" clothes.
**Rita: I'm glad to hear that Naked Time is important. As far as Jarin is concerned, I think it's his favorite time of day! =)
**Crystal: Jarin also likes to "help" me get him dressed. His new thing is to pick up clothes wherever he finds them and try to put them over his head. His personal favorite? My underwear! (Clean and out of the laundry basket, of course)
**Moriah: Glad tohear you and Geoff worked everything out. Jarin is also much more interested in mommy and I think my dh gets jealous sometimes too. The difference is that with Jesse (who's 8) he knows that someday Jarin will want to spend all his time with daddy. (Did that make sense?)
**Barb: Yay for Haley sleeping so well!
**Allison: I think Ferber is supposed to start around 6 months. I didn't start it until 11 months. LOL
**Kahne: Jarin also loves to play battle of the laundry. He wants to put everything over his head. So funny.
**Megan: WELCOME BACK, GIRL!!!! Gees, I've been wondering where you have been! I'm glad to hear you and Ben are doing so well. Now I will expect you to keep posting, you hear?
**Ok, going now. Take care and kisses to all those babies.
Patty and Jarin - 17 days till he's 1!
email: tematheny@ctlnet.com
Tuesday, August 10, 1999 at 14:42:09 (PDT)

Hello all, from Stacey

I just wanted to check in quickly and say hi. I am going to try my best to keep up with this board, even though Franchesca has graduated to Toddlers Today, since my next little one will bring me back here next month anyway :)

Unfortunately I am feeling really stressed out right now and not in much of a mood to burden anyone, so although I am reading I am not up for a whole lot of conversation.

It makes me especially sad to see what happened with Crystal over the weekend. Crystal, don;t ever feel like you can't share here if that is what you want to do. While we all might not agree with the way you handle things, we can at least support you and make you look at things with open eyes, and do so in a way that does not hurt you.

You ladies are the best and I value yor friendship very much...


Stacey, Franchesca (1 yr old) and 1 on the way
Tuesday, August 10, 1999 at 15:55:02 (PDT)

Good afternoon Ladies, Becky and Harley here.

I can hardly belive that my little guy will be 1 in three days. Where does the time go. Harley is running all over the house, but still doesn't really talk yet, although I think he is really trying. He has the cutest little shirt that looks like a batman costume, and I bought him a whole outfit for his birthday that has a cape and everything. Whenever he is wearing it we ask him "where are you going bat-man?" and he just grins and grins. We went to an employee appreciation dinner here at the fair and Harley was running all over the place. My friend was there with her twins who are about to turn two. I asked her how she does it and she says that she just reaches for the one that is in the most immediate danger first, which tickled me. I really admire mothers with more than one little one to watch over at a time. You ladies are incrediable to me.

For Harley's birthday we decided to keep it small at our house with just DH, myself and a few friends. I do want to make it special though and I am planning to decorate and have a cake and wrap his gifts etc. Anyone have any other ideas on how I can make Harley's first B-Day Fun? Either post any ideas or e-mail me at my NEW e-mail address bsmisek@scfair.org.

Lisa B & Max-The picture in the photo gallary isn't my Harley, but I can tell you who he is. I recognize the picture. It is from the other Becky and Harley Maxillian (My Harley is Harley Havis) She has never posted but reads the posts from time to time. We have sent some e-mail back and forth and she's a really great gal. Other Becky if your'e reading this, HI! I would love to see the new pictures of Max. I have never been able to get the pictures I have to e-mail correctly but I'll be getting one year pictures in the batman costume.

Tracey-I hope you feel better soon. I'll be joining the Toddlers Today Board Soon, although I'll really miss the ladies here, so you all must follow okay?

Shanna-Thanks for the blowing on the face for medicine trick, I'll have to try that. Are you sending out a newsletter? How can I get included on the list?

Moriah-I'm glad that you and DH made up. Alex sounds like he is getting so big.

Kay-I think the camp you discussed sounds really great. I hope you had a good time.

Crystal-Glad to hear Darrel is okay, I hate it when that happens. Harley has a bruise on his forehead right now from falling into a doorjam when he was too sleepy. Feel free to post whatever you want, I personally feel that it was pretty gutless of Concerned to not post their name.

Jenni-I agree when does it ever end. Wake up, change diapers, feed baby, clean baby, pick up toys, feed husband, feed dogs, feed cat, change diaper, feed baby, and love baby (my favorite part) in between each task.

Patty-Harley also loves to be naked. He pats his chest just enjoying the feeling of his skin and laughs and runs. Add Harley to the Cat Hair Club too. He will walk up to the cat, lay on him and grab his hair till the cat yells for help and when I pull him off the cat he always has HANDFULLS of cat hair, Yuck. I have to give my Cat Sweeney Tood credit though, he has never even acted like he was going to bite or scratch Harley. Often when Harley lays on him or grabs him he just PURRRRS. He is such a good cat.

Judey-They do grow so fast.

Rita-When is the Renassance (spelling)Faire? I didn't know it had moved to Vacaville. Let me know and maybe we can meet there. I used to go when it was in Novato and I thought it was so neat. I would love to meet you and yours. It would be great!

Nancy L-We also belong to the cat hair club.

Ad-Okay what did the dog do to graduate to the Stinkey Potent Foul Dog Title. My curiousity is peaked.

Julie J-Where was the daycare shooting. How horrible, I live in California and it has kinda got me freaked out.

Kahne-LOL at the battle of the Laundry. Harley loves to help sort socks. He looks so busy when he does it is cute.

Megan-I was jazzed to read your post, and I'm glad youall are doing well. It sounds like Ben will be walking before you know it. The Music together class sounds great. I wonder if they offer it in California.

Laura B-Harley can join Shane in the Dog & Baby club. His favorite thing is to feed the dogs his snacks.

Patty-I feel for you having to go back to school and leave Jarin behind. It really is hard, but you can do it. I can tell you that it makes me really appreciate the time that Harley and I have together when I get off work. It is still hard though. Hang tough.

Oh Yeah. Did any of you happen to see THUMB WARS on TV about a month ago? It is a parody of Star Wars but all the characters are peoples thumbs with faces and costumes. I know they say not to let kids under 2 watch TV but we taped it and Harley LOVES it. He watches the thumbs and actually will sit still while it's on. I think it is because they have great facial expressions.

Well, see I don't post for a month and then I write a novel. Take care ladies and kiss those babies for me.


Becky & Harley
email: NEW**** bsmisek@scfair.org
Tuesday, August 10, 1999 at 16:12:04 (PDT)

I just loost a post, but I don't feel like retyping the whole thing. So, I'll just give the Reader's Digest version of what I wanted to say. First of all, there is absolutely no abuse going on. Dh would NEVER hurt me or Darrel like that. In fact, if he ever hears of anyone hurting either of us, he'll hunt them down. Darrel is doing fine. He had another fall today, but he's okay. No vomiting or anythiing. Darrel could be a part of the cat club too. Although he doesn't always have a handful of cat hair (they won't let him get too close to them for too long), he does chase them and the dog around the house. He tries to eat Libby's cats and dogs. so I guess that counts.

Please keep my best friend Ruth in your prayers. She wants a baby but has a miscarriage everytime she gets pregnant. So,, she's jealous of me and our other friends because of our babies. She's very depressed about being unable t carry a child.

and, I would like to thank everyone for their support from this weekend. That's as far as I'll go on that one. I'm very sure you all know what I mean.

That's all for now. I'll post some more later.


Crystal and Darrel 1 in 13 days
Tuesday, August 10, 1999 at 17:13:43 (PDT)

Just have time for 2 quick posts-

Tara- DH left Yesterday, will be back Friday- not too bad, sisnce hes usually gone 30 days. I get lonely when he goes for a long time, but this is more of a welcome break- time to do stuff I don't do with him around. I don't get scared since I live on post and have WONDERFUL neighbors. We all take turns looking out for each other when our DH is in the field.

Judey my 3 sons are all within 3 years of each other and its so much fun. They are great friends! E-mail me if you have any questions about kids this close- I think I've probably seen it all!!
Jayme
email: jpahucki@aol.com
Tuesday, August 10, 1999 at 17:23:56 (PDT)

Hi ladies, Charline & Hayden here. When I went in to check on Hayden this a.m. he was playing with his feet and when he saw me he put his foot in his mouth and laughed. It was so cute, like he was saying hey mom, look what I can do! Tommorrow is Hayden's 4 month check up. I am anxious to see how much he weighs, length, etc. But I'm not looking forward to the shots!

Jenni- We went to Ogunquit, Maine which is in southern Maine. I've been to Bar Harbor twice. It is beautiful there. My brother and SIL live and work in NYC. I think that they are thinking about moving to New England before they start a family. Nicholas sounds so cute making raspberries and talking and laughing to everyone.

Crystal- I'm glad that Darrel is ok after his fall in church.

Judey- Happy 5 month Birthday to Jenna!

Shanna- Thanks for putting together the baby picture page. I received it and Hayden's pictures back today. All the babies look adorable!

Moriah- Hayden weighs about 15lbs. and takes 29oz. to 34oz. per day. Sometimes less. Yesterday, he only had 26oz. I have a hard time getting him to take 32oz. in one day. He sleeps through the night so I have to try to get him to take it during the day.

Allison- They have the soft cover baby albums in the catalog One Step Ahead. It's called Babies first Photo Album and it cost $10.95 plus shipping and handling. There web address is www.onestepahead.com

JulieJ- I also heard about that shooting in CA. I don't understand what this world is coming too. It makes me fearful for Hayden's future.

Megan- It good to hear that Ben is doing so well. He sounds so cute pointing to his books and babbling.

Barb- That's great that Haley is doing so well for you. I read the Babywise book and used some of it to help Hayden get into a schedule. I wasn't very strict with starting his feedings the same time every day, but it seemed to work in the long run. He is 4 months old and is sleeping 9 to 11+ hours every night.

Patty- My friend who is also a teacher also has to go back to school in a couple of weeks after taking a year off. Her baby is now a little over a year old and she is trying the ferber method to try to get her to sleep through the night. She is also dreading going back to teaching and wishes that she didn't have to go back. We teach at the same school. I hope that we can afford it so that I don't have to go back in January. It makes my stomach turn just thinking of going back. I just wanted you to know that I can relate to how you are feeling.

Well, I hope that everyone has a good night!
Charline & Hayden(4 months old)
email: djl@mediaone.net
Tuesday, August 10, 1999 at 17:28:01 (PDT)

Rebecca here...

Judey - before you buy a walker can I please pass on some information. First, walker sales in Canada are prohibited. Babies in walkers can easily fall down stairs (stair gates aren't strong enough to stop a walker at full speed), reach things they otherwise couldn't, and they have benn shown to delay walking, instead of improving it. I only say this because there have been numerous articles about the dangers of baby walkers, and it scares me to think of how many are out there. You are better to get one of the Evenflow of Graco (just examples) bouncy rings with toys. They are stable and if time is limited, they don't harm babies walking abilities. I'm sorry if this is more than you wanted to know, but I knew that you would want to do the very best for Jenna.

That's all for my personals. I know that I've been missing for a few days, but I had a franticly busy weekend. It's just going to get worse. I have house guests this weekend (in a tiny apartment) and a wedding. The following weekend I'm going to work (as a favor to my old manager) and then I have a huge BBQ here for my Parent group. Please forgive me if I don't keep up for this month. I do scan for posts addressed to me and for questions that I may be able to help with. Talk to you soon (I hope).
Rebecca & Paige (almost 9 months)
email: burn@canadawired.com
Tuesday, August 10, 1999 at 18:26:50 (PDT)

Hey there ladies. I miss you all so much. I know that I say that everytime I am on here but I really do mean it. Well I am well now but now my baby is sick. He is running fever, runny nose, very cranky and sleepy and pulling at his ears. I will be taking him to the doctor Friday if he is still like that. I know that it may just be his teething but he has never acted like that before so I am a bit worried. He just wants me to hold him all the time and then he lays his head on my shoulder. He is constantly sleeping or fussing. I feel so sorry for him. Also I want to say that there should be no more fighting on this page. It is a place to come and tell oyur problems and about your babies and have support, not down people.

I do have something to say about walkers. First of all all of my children used them and they all walked at or before 12 months witht he exception of Taylor who was premmature by 2 months and she walked at about 15 months. If you don't have enough brains not to put a baby in a walker arouns stairs or even upsairs at all then you should not be a parent. My children loved them. Also there are new standards now that they will not fit through a doorway, have strips on the bottom where they will not fall down steps and last they will no longer go anyway but forward. I have never had problems with them and since we have no steps the doctor told me that they are perfectly safe.

Now I am the one going on and on. Just wanted to put in my opinion. Well I am going to go for now. Take care all.
Tracey and Dillon
email: battnt@worldnet.att.net
Tuesday, August 10, 1999 at 20:05:34 (PDT)

Hey from Megan again.
I know, two posts in one day after none for months!
It seems Ben is teething. I've attributed his crankiness to his cold but I think I see white in his gums and DH said when he massaged them with his finger, Ben calmed right down.
So, to all the moms with babies and teeth I would appreciate ANY and ALL teething relief ideas. Tonight we gave him tylenol but I don't want to do that all the time.
Thanks in advance. I'll check in and read posts tomorrow.
Goodnight,
Megan and Benjamin (9 months July 29th)
email: dtandmm@slkc.uswest.net
Tuesday, August 10, 1999 at 21:26:17 (PDT)

Hello everyone It's Sonata

I am new on this board! I have posted here a few times during my pregnancy, but since we had to do a lot of moving around I am able to join you ladies just now. I live in Kuala Lumpur Malaysia and I have a 16 week old son named Eray. May be some of you remember me when I posted a few months ago. I was so scared and helpless at the beginning going through a pretty good post partum depression because I was without dh because he had to start work in another country. Well we are finally together and very happy.

I have been breastfeeding from the beginning. Eray has reached 16 pounds at week 16, looks pretty good. Breastfeeding has been so much fun and very tiring at the same time because you have to feed more often and on demand! My little Eray is still not sleeping through the night, I have to wake up still 2 times to feed him. I am like a veggie the next day. 4 months now..and I feel like I am in a military camp! I am not able to do much the next day no exercise or etc. to lose the weight I gained. Oh by the way I gained 50pounds during my pregnancy. I lost 25 pounds in the first 2 months but the rest seems to have settled in. They say it takes a year. I hope my husband can put up with this because I used to be so ooo thin! But now I am still wearing preggo clothes and moreover my belly is still like a 5 month old pregnant woman's! I really hate the way I look but at the same time knowing that I am doing the best for my little one keeps me in high sprits!

Here comes my first question to all the experienced mothers here: When do they start sleeping through the night (ofcourse with breastfeeding)? Some of my friends are breastfeeding and their babies have already started sleeping through the night when they are 3 months old already.

I feel so tired and useless, I really need sleep!

Well I am so happy to join you girls and hope we will have the best time here together..

Bye for now
Hugs to you all
Sonata&Eray@16 weeks
Tuesday, August 10, 1999 at 22:07:25 (PDT)

This is Judey seeking advice, again! Jenna is starting to teethe, none showing yet. I am still just breast feeding, no formula. My concern is that she had developed this habit of biting me now when she is nursing - ouch! I don't want to have to wean her when her teeth come in but I don't know if I can take her biting when they do. Anyone have any suggestions on how to deal with this problem?

Allison - I had a hard time finding a baby photo book myself, I looked everywhere in our town for one with no luck and then just happened upon one in a store I did not expect to find it at. I would give you the name of the store but it is just a local store, not a chain. My sister who is newly pregnant and my SIL both liked it so much I went back and bought them one. The store is like a close out store, evrything is brand new still it's original packaging it is just close out or discontinued stuff. The ones I found are NoJo brand, paid only $2.99 for them! Giving out personal info online is scary but if you can think of any way for me to safely get one to you I would be glad to pick one up next time I am at that store and mail it to you, Just e-mail me if you think of anything. I did see the Sassy brand someone had mentioned in an online shop. I saw it in www.babyfurniture.com in their gift section for I believe $5.99, it was really cute, I am ordering one.

Vikktoria - I am 36 so I know I don't have much time to wait or decide. My first child is 17 now, there is more than 16 yrs difference in Cassidy and Jenna. We were not planning on Jenna, she was an unexpected blessing, but since we have already started over we are thinking of going ahead and having another one. Cassidy grew up and only child basically and will being going off to college after this school year so unless we do have another one Jenna will also basically grow up as an only child. I love the name Zelda, did you chose it for any particular reason?

Patty - I came back to work in May. As I posted earlier I came back on a night shift so Jenna is with her daddy and sister when I am at work. However, I still get teary eyed when I have to leave for work at night even knowing she is with daddy and sister, it is just so hard to leave them. I just sit and hold her as close as I can for about and hour everynight before putting her to bed and leaving for work. I miss her so much. I also thought I would not want to be a SAHM but after Jenna came it sure changed my mind but with Cassidy starting college ($$$$$) next year it is not really an option.

Jayme - You have three boys so close in age, it sounds really great! You must a really busy house! Did it seems to cause you any problems physically having them so close together? ANy complications from it in your pregnancy or delivery?

Charline - I feel so sorry for you and Hayden having to go for those shots. I am such a wimp I cry everytime Jenna gets a shot, just can't stand to see the nurse hurting her even if I know its for her own good. This last time we tried ice packs on her legs just before the shots and it helped a little but not much, we both still cried.

Rebecca - Thanks for the info on walkers and your concern. We have no stairs in our house, it is level and it would not be used as a babysitter (she would only be in it for play purposes and only when I am right there with her). I would never leave Jenna in one long enough to cause her any developmental delays. I hold her every chance and as much as I can so she will be in my arms much much more than she will ever be in a walker.

Rita - Thanks for the heating pad advice I will try it. I am much better now.

Bye-Bye for now.
Judey and Jenna (5 mo)
email: judey99@yahoo.com
Tuesday, August 10, 1999 at 23:01:26 (PDT)

Good Evening/Morning Ladies... I guess 1am qualifies as morning huh???? Obviously someone is deterring the sleep fairy from coming to visit my house, or maybe the she's just not a country gal... I know she's reads the boards and knows I live in Green Acres and don't want a damn thing to do w/ ticks, stinking dogs who roll in cow pies, smelly horses, or pigs... maybe she's reading this now... it's really a bed and breakfast miss sleep fairy... PLEASE COME VISIT>.... okay now that I am obviously delusional from sleep deprivation I'll get this post over and try to go sleep! I think Annie has set trip wires in the hallway so that if I walk anywhere near her room she knows and wakes up! Another full day of painting... don't ask i'm still on my living room, i'm sort of a perfectionist about the most anal little things and the trim in here is driving me insane,,,, I painted the living room Navajo White (okay some fancy name for cream) but anyway I was doing the trim in Coral... (okay peach) but anyway, I hated it after I got it done, so I went back to the paint store and bought Sage (okay green) for the trim, and just love it! I have a lot of oak & pine furniture so the green just looks fantastic! Now at a the paint shop I also decided to redo Annie's room in Lilac w/ Raphael's Angels as a wall paper border/accent, it will look so great w/ all her Anne Geddes photos! Annie's room redo is my project for tommorrow! YEAH!

DH called tonight crying because I fed ex'd him annie's pictures since he's been gone so long and hasn't been able to see them. He misses her so much, she has brought us so much closer together! I'm so happy. He said he has walked around Seattle showing them to anyone with a set of eyes... I really wish he'd find a different job, but the money is good, and until I graduate from law school, he's just gonna have to work... I've promised him when I pass the bar, he can stay at home and train horses and teach riding! At the rate i'm going in school, he'll need a walker to get to his horse and a hoist to get him on it! But anyway, taking a year off from school to work was not such a great idea! Now with Annie it's going to be a challenge this semester! I just have to remind my self I can handle it! Heck when I was in the Navy, I went to college at night and had a toddler, when you're a single mom you'll go to any lenght i guess! So now I think i've gotten soft in my old age! LOL

Sorry for the novel!

Sonata, great to see you again. Eray is a cool name, what does it mean? Annie still doesn't sleep thru the night, so i've got no great advice there!

Tracey - we miss you too!

Becky - i've emailed you the info.

Moriah - Annie weighs 14 lbs. and since I have to measure her intake/output daily because of the kidney situation, I knew exactly what goes in and out@ LOL.... usually 32-34 ozs per day, but some days it's only 28... I think they're like us, just hungry on certain days! DH and I go thru some of the same stuff... when he's home he drives me insane because I'm so used to being alone, and taking care of everything on my own, then he pops in and has to disrupt my little schedule... and when he's home it's seems like forever because it's like 4or 5 straight days....and I know he's jealous of the time I spend with Annie, but he hides it very well!

Lisa B. - Thanks for the info on Seattle Film works, I just signed up for the free film, I'm too much of an INSTANT HAVE TO HAVE IT NOW PERSON, to possible conceive of mailing my film off to get it developed... I only do one-hr and complain if they're late.... I have zero patience... so that would just never work for me! LOL

Charline- glad the pictures made it home ok. Maine sounds like sooo much fun! It's one of the few states i've never been to. I want to go so badly, DH had a job up there last summer but it cancelled at the last minute so we didn't get to go, I was so looking forward to it. Glad you had a good time!

Hugs to all,
Shanna
Shanna & Annie Grace (3.5 mos.)
email: shanna1@earthlink.net
Tuesday, August 10, 1999 at 23:16:47 (PDT)

Personal Message for Jo Ann - please e-mail me or post your e-mail address. I had an e-mail to send you but somehow deleted yours and could not retrieve it from the "trash" so I don't have your address. Hope to hear from you soon.
Judey
email: judey99@yahoo.com
Wednesday, August 11, 1999 at 02:35:25 (PDT)

Well, Ive just seen my first solar eclipse (and probably my last, since the next one's not due to be seen in the UK until 2090!) - everyone was out on the streets, it went very dark and all the stars came out (at 11.00am) and it was freezing cold for a few minutes. Very weird. The sleep fairy hasn't shown up here either - James decided to wakt me at 3.00 am and then again at 5.15! He never normally does this, I'm putting it down to teething. I really need to join the 'baby covered in cat hair' club too! I'm sure that James' first real word will be Rosie (cat's name) - he adores her. Sadly, she's not too keen on him - he seems a bit young to be learning unrequited love! He is such a cutie at the moment. He loves his 'naked time' too - I put his towel over his shoulder at bath time and he crawls into the bathroom on his own! For some strange reason he has started to growl as he crawls - like a little bear!

DH nad I also fell out last night - he was minding James all day as I had to go into London to finish a fellance work project. Needless to say when I got home the house was a tip, overflowing garbage cans, no bottles made up, etc etc. I don't exactly get on top of everything when I'm at home either, but he acted like he's had the day from hell, and I'd never experienced anything like it etc etc! I was tired and fuming last night. I think he wanted a medal or something.

Allison - what we call CCT and you guys call Ferberizing does start at around 6 months here too. Under 6 months the experts reckon they need to know that the world is a safe and secure place, and some breast fed babies still legitimately need a night time feed depending on their weight.

I saw on the news yeaterday about that daycare shooting incident - I cried so much - what kind of a world do we live in? We can only hope and pray that hope our little ones grow up without guns and violence.

Hugs to all
Louise & James (almost 9 months!)
Wednesday, August 11, 1999 at 04:54:07 (PDT)

Good morning everyone. Just a quick hello. Colton has been sleeping through the night 3 nights in a row now! If he wakes up he just cries for a couple a minutes then falls back to sleep.

Dh watched Colton last night for a whole 3 1/2 hrs. When I came home they both were sound asleep on the couch--so cute I had to take a picture. DH could barley crawl to bed "so tired". He said lets go and have about 6 more kids.--NOT It took me over a 1/2 hr to pick the house up before I could get to bed. It is so funny how when DH watches Colton by himself it is such a big deal.

Shanna: I received the baby picture collage yesterday. It was great seeing all the babies. Thanks for all your work.
Julianne & Colton 13 mo today
email: jjones@batts.com
Wednesday, August 11, 1999 at 05:58:31 (PDT)

Morning ladies,

Well the cranky-monster decided to pay a vistit to our house this morning. Nothing seemed to make Nicholas smile except when I tripped over the stupid hairball I call a cat (Nick was in his saucer), he did learn a few new "words" hopefully he is not going to store that for future use when he really begins talking. Anyway, his teeth or lack there of, seem to be really bothering him this am, I gave him his teether from the fridge and he was going nuts. But since he still has trouble holding things to his mouth his relief is short lived unless I sit with him and hold it. Any advice???

Moriah - Nicholas is about 12.5-13pounds and only takes between 22-24 oz a day. Less if its really hot and more on certain days. But usually 24. To me that seems like so little, but he is gaining and growing.

Allison - Do you have an Imaginarium near you? That where I got mine, I think www.rightstart.com has them too.

Julie - I felt the same way when I saw the news of the shooting. I had to turn the tv off

Barb - Yup Union County. Close enough to the city to pay for it. Where is Hunterdon?

Patty - Complain and cry all you want...I still feel the same way when I go to work in the morning (week 2) and Sunday night is the worset!!! But when Nicholas smiles his greeting to this sitter I calm down, and when he gives me bigger smiles as night when I pick him up I feel even better.

Sontata - Welcome back!! I remeber you from PT board. I beat on weight by 5 pounds and still have 15-20 pounds to go! Nicholas started sleeping through the night (10:30-5:00)at 7wks, and I was BF. On a bottle now he sleeps from 9:30-6:00 (he's 14wks yesterday)

Well my boss just walked in so I guess I should go. See ya later.


Jenni & Nicholas (3 months)
email: njemtjen@aol.com
Wednesday, August 11, 1999 at 06:06:30 (PDT)

Nancy L. & Andy here,

Sleep fairy-Thank you! Andy went down at 7 last night, we woke him at 1 am (when DH came to bed) for a feed and he stayed down until 7 am. Yay! He's gone down at 8 am tonite. Sure hoping for a repeat performance. And thanks to everyone on the board who had suggestions. I tried the 'get them up at 7 am no matter what' this morning. And I don't get Andy up at ntie to nurse unless he cries loud enough to wake DH. After a few hours my boobs tell me that my baby is hungry even when he's snoozing away. Now I just pump. And whoever said their mom used to wake them and nurse during the 11 o'clock news we just changed that to when DH comes to bed-always much later than me.

What's with this drooly, snotty crabby 10 week old? I want my smiley cooing baby back. Is it a cold? Allergy? What gives?

I've been trying to put Andy down to play on his stomach but he absolutely hates it. Should I worry? Give up? Is it so important for development?



Sonata-Hey girl! Welcome back. So glad you're settled in. Well, I'm off to Holland Sept 4. I also had a terrible PPD after my c/s. So glad the tide of raging hormones has subsideded. I absolutely hated my insecure weepy self.

Cyndi62-Where are you? How do I keep from feeling like I am stealing from the baby when I pump breastmilk?

Shanna-You're gonna be a lawyer, cool. But HOW do you do it? I can barely squeeze out time to eat these days. I guess the more you have to do the more you get done. Just don't let my DH know that I can do more. LOL.

I was lurking on PT and saw that Auri had her baby girl. I can't stop until Traci has her little boy. Does anyone know what happened to Karen? -she was going to name her baby Julia. I think I missed her birth story.

Barb-Andy also has a 4-in-1 only his is the century model. Good idea about putting both canopies up and just peering through the window.

AD-What software are you using for your DTP (Desktop publishing, not Diptheria, Tetanus, Pertussus (LOL)) job? I used to use PageMaker alot and thought it was really fun.

Jenni-I don't think cat hair club has anything to do with boys. Everything I have is covered with a thin layer of cathair.

About the AAP ruling on no TV until a kid is 2 years old. Give me a break. What am I supposed to do when I am nursing 4-6 hours a day? You can only read "What to expect" so many times before you get too paranoid to do anything with your baby. I'll just file that one with the AAP thing about exclusive breastfeeding for the first 4-6 months, I lasted what, 19 days? LOL This is the first place I've run into Moms that breastfeed and supplement. I didn't know it was possible. I thought it was and either or thing.


Nancy L. & Andy (10 wks)
email: nls@loxinfo.co.th
Wednesday, August 11, 1999 at 06:31:37 (PDT)

Hi from LisaB. Good news - DH just got ANOTHER raise. Yahoo!!! We're pretty definite that I'll quit work (or at least find a part-time job) after I have my next one. I'm stuck here until then thru as we have the new house to pay for, need to bulk up the savings more, and I want to keep my insurance until AFTER the next one is born (as it'll only cost me $10 TOTAL for the baby). Plus Max LOVES his daycare - but any additional babies couldn't go there as she would have to become licensed to watch any additional kids and doesn't want the hassles.

NANCY: Max is 22lb and still nursing. It does get harder when they are older. He squirms and it wears me out somethings just getting him latched on as he wants Mr. Booby the INSTANT he gets up on my lap - he's about as patient as I am! Now his chest is up against mine and his legs are hanging over the arm of the recliner. Max HATED "tummy time" until he started to roll over and then he would scream if he was on his back. I just did tummy time for a few minutes each day while he hated it. I laid on the floor with him and wiggled toys, etc. - anything to get him to stretch a little and lift his head up (so he would develop his muscles).

JULIE J: Ferberizing isn't recommended until 6 months, as others had said. Continue to comfort Calen when he cries during the night; he needs the security of knowing Mommy will be there for him. You might trying working with him during the day - lay him on his back and play with him so he gets used to his back, lay him on his back and help him roll over to his tummy, etc.

JENNI: Add Max to the cat club. He likes to chew on their tails. Max's doc said not to use the wedge thing once he could roll over - too easy for him to roll over and get stuck in it, with his face buried, and suffocate.

RITA: Max also refuses to let me see his gums - have to hold him upside down and take a quick peek!

KAHNE: Wow ... Cat is going to be trying to walk down the aisle to get Mommy and Daddy, isn't she?!

MEGAN: Hi stranger! I've read that once you have BF you can always start lactating again - even if you adopt a child. It takes a lot of time, patience, and effort, however (pumping more frequently than when you nursed, having Ben suckle a lot to stimulate lactation, etc.). I wouldn't do it at 9 months as you'll get it all flowing again and then Ben will be on whole milk and you won't need it anymore. Max also did the "commando" crawl for a long time - now he's on all fours (when he isn't RUNNING through the living room, using the couch for support)! Orajel, a chew toy (for babies ... not dogs!), teething rings from the fridge, ice chips, popsicles, ice cream, and cold washclothes all help Max when he's teething.

PATTY: With teaching 1/2 days how long will you be away from Jarin each day? I'll look up the photo information (it's at home) and e-mail you.

STACEY: I'm sorry you are so stressed right now. You have a right to be between your MIL, having a 1 year old (barely), and being 9 months pregnant - not to mention your stressful job. Please e-mail me with all the details if you feel a need to vent without taking up a lot of board space.

BECKY: I didn't think that was your Harley (Baby Face Gallary) as it looked like a girl ... but it's so hard to tell from just a picture.

CRYSTAL: I'm thinking positive conceiving and pregnancy thoughts for Ruth. I can't imagine how hard and depressing it would be to have so many miscarriages. Have the doctors given her a medical reason for this or has she just had "bad luck"? She's lucky to have a friend like you.

SONATA: Welcome back! You sound so much happier now - I'm sure being with DH helps a lot! Do you nap during the day when Eray sleeps? That helps a lot. Max didn't sleep through until around 5-6 months.

JUDEY: Max used to bite - he would chomp down and wiggle his head back and forth like a dog with a bone. OUCH! It was worse when he was teething or fighting sleep. I would say "no" firmly, remove him from my breast (and, when they are REALLY chomping down that's harder than just sticking your pinkie in the corner of their mouth), and then remove him from me (sit him on the floor or give him to DH) for a minute or so. He quickly learned that if he was hungry he had to stop biting or he wouldn't get that Mama Juice he so desperately wanted. BTW, "they" say not to yell, jerk, winch, etc. when baby bites you. I'm sorry but sometimes it hurts like HELL and you do these things before you think about it. After the initial shock wore off, however, I would do the steps I mentioned above.

SHANNA: Get some sleep, girl. I'm also anal so you have company here - it drives my DH up the wall sometimes! I got the collage ... thanks! All the babies (and Julianne) are beautiful! It's sweet that DH will admit that he misses Annie enuf to cry. He sounds like a peach - KEEP HIM! I didn't know about S.F.W. until I used their film and then NOONE in town would develop it. I was soooo ticked.

LOUISE: The eclipse sounds neat! James sounds adorable growling. Do you have (or can you borrow or rent) a video camera to catch that on tape to humilate him when he's older?!


LisaB & Max (11 months)
email: lisa_lab@hotmail.comq
Wednesday, August 11, 1999 at 07:07:22 (PDT)

Good morning everyone. Thanks to everyone who gave input on Cale's sleeping problems. DH and I decided that we will continue to go in and roll him over to his tummy until sometime after 6 months.

Sarah - Thanks for the info on sleeping. I think we may just have to work on getting him used to it.

Jenni - We tried the side sleeper and he just wriggles himself onto his back. Thanks for your input though.

AD - Thanks for your input also. Cale loves the stroller too. He often falls asleep in it when we go for our evening walk.

Barb- I have tried the rolled up blankets and he just raises his little but up in the air and pushes himself right over them. I have one of those 4 in one systems and I just love it!

Tracey - I sure hope Dillon is feeling better.

Megan - Those teething tablets that you can get at health food stores have worked really well for Cale. There are some days though that nothing seems to help.

Sonata - Welcome! I remember you from the pg board. Every baby is different with sleeping. Cale is BF almost entirely and the Dr advised me that if he wakes before 1:30 am, try to get him back to sleep w/o feeding him. If it is after that, feed him. This has worked well for us and Cale doesn't wake every night. Hope this helps. I would check with your Dr first though.

Shanna - Are you in Seattle? I live in Federal Way.

Nancy L - Cale did not like being put down on his tummy to play either. I just started in little increments, 2 min, then let him fuss a little longer the next time for maybe 5 min, then again and so on. It worked well for him.

Lisa B - Good news for you about DH's raise!! Thanks for your input on Cales "Back problem". He loves to play on his back during the day and that is what makes it so strange!

For those looking for the little baby photo books, the Babies R Us store in my area carries them.

I try not to sit Cale in front of the TV much, but if he will sit there, content for 15 min while we eat dinner, then I don't have a problem with that. I guess according to the studies that makes me a bad Mom. Oh, well I will just have to deal with the guilt!!

Have a nice day everyone!!
Julie J and Calen ( 4 1/2 months)
email: JulieJ@Quebim.com
Wednesday, August 11, 1999 at 08:27:04 (PDT)

Good morning ladies! SARAH here! Hope everyone is well today. Not much going on here so here are some personals:

JULIE - I didn't hear about the shooting. What happened? Was anyone killed?

MEGAN - SOOOOOO good to hear from you!!!! :)
HAPPY 9 month BIRTHDAY to BEN (late). How are you feeling today? You can try Dr. Hymans teething pills. You can get the over the counter at Rite Aid, Walgreens, etc.

BARB - Yea for HALEY sleeping!! :) Let us know when you're an auntie!

PATTY - Thanks for the info about TERESA!!! That was driving me crazy!! I don't need to get any crazier than I already am!! :) I'm sorry you're so sad about going back to work. I was too. It will get easier and easier every day. You'll come to find you like your "adult time". (even though you'll still be with kids).

STACEY - Why are you feeling so stressed?! JUST KIDDING!!!!! Hang in there. When are you due again. You are the only one who is still posting that is preggo. That's awesome! :)

BECKY - I can't believe HARLEY will be 1 in 2 days!!

CRYSTAL - I'll keep your friend RUTH in my thoughts and prayers!

REBECCA - Good luck with all of your upcoming events!

SONATA - WELCOME BACK!!!!! I have to agree, you do sound MUCH happier! :) :) HANNAH is almost 1 and still wakes up 1 time in the night. No advice here! I gained 50 lbs too, and I just got back down to my pre-pregnancy weight!! :) It'll come off.

SHANNA - The paint you selected sounds awesome. I love that pine color!!! That story about DH is so sweet. Sounds like something my DH would do!

LOUISE - My mom leaves for London on Saturday for 15 days.

JULIANNE - Yea for COLTON sleeping. Keep it up COLTON!!!! :)

LISA - Congrats to DH!!

I, too disagree about tv before 2. HANNAH doesn't watch alot of tv, but LOVES Teletubbies, Barney, Wimzie's House. Oh, and Wheel of Fortune. LOL I don't see anything wrong with her watching those shows!!!

Talk to you all later! Love you guys!

HI TRACEY! I sent you an email! :)

Sarah and Hannah (1 in 25 days!!!!)
email: smoore@geatoir.cfer.com
Wednesday, August 11, 1999 at 08:44:22 (PDT)

Hello Ladies,
Wow I am actually posting before Midnight!!!!! LOL. I too disagree with the tv before 2 deal. Cat loves Jeopardy and the Price is right. She also "bonds" with her daddy on Monday nights watching "Monday Nitro Live", LOL. I dont xactly approve of Pro Wrestling, however, for all of your ladies who's husbands watch, I dont mind watching "Big Sexy" Kevin Nash,LOL!!!!! Anyway Cat, too loves Tubbies and Barney. She just likes the flashing lights of the wrestling. OH well, I am taking a trip today into New Orleans, to pick up my WEDDING RING!!!! It is getting so close ladies, I am starting to get nervous :0). Oh well, gotta run, I have to see mt mother today, so the baby has to be perfect, LOL. I love you all!

Kahne and Cat 7 months
email: skcx2@fnbop.com
Wednesday, August 11, 1999 at 08:55:53 (PDT)

Me again. I've been doing this alot lately. Forgetting to write some things! OOPS!

NANCY - Don't worry about tummy time! HANNAH hated her tummy until she was about 7 months old and now she loves it.

Bye again! :)
Sarah again
Wednesday, August 11, 1999 at 09:01:06 (PDT)

Good afternoon everyone, kinda busy around here today...My crabby boy is happily munching on a wash cloth my sitter put in the freezer for him. So I guess he seems content with that :0)

NancyL - Teething?? I have a drooling, snotty, crabby 14 week old. I want my little smiler back
Nicholas hated tummy time too, so I got him a "Boppy Pillow" big U shapped pillow and the he goes in that on his tummy/chest. He seems to enjoy it more and is holding his head up even higher now to see whats going on.

Lisa - I never hear of that, I thought the wedge kept them from rolling over. Congrats to DH!!!! So when are you going to start on #2 so you can stay home?? That's my deal too. When #2 comes I stay home...we're planning on trying when Nicholas is 1.

Sarah - Nicholas loves Arthur, Richard Scarry and yes BAYWATCH LOL, must be the Red bathingsuits

Kahn - Don't know about wrestling but we have Daddy/Baby bonding with Yankee baseball...Go Derek Jeter!!!!

About the tv thing before 2 years old, what did our parents do??? We seemed to turn out alright. I guess I'm a bad mommy too then, as is my mom...
Have a good afternoon
Jenni & Nicholas (3 months)
email: njemtjen@aol.com
Wednesday, August 11, 1999 at 09:44:29 (PDT)

Hi from LisaB.

JENNI: Officially we're going to start TTC #2 in November, when my birth control runs out (Max will be 15 months so IF we conceive ASAP - which is doubtful - they would be exactly 2 years apart). Unofficially, I'm going to start trying as soon as we get home tonight - throw Max in his crib, shut the door, and get right at it. No, I'm only kidding BUT I am starting to get the baby bug (and DH has had it for awhile ... ever since the doctor OKed sex again after Max was born, actually). The girl in the next office at work is pregnant and another lady's 6-day old granddaughter came in today to see her. It makes me long to be pregnant again and have another infant, esp. as my last pregnancy sucked so bad (I'm looking forward to easy sailing with #2, hopefully, as the Big Bad Gall Bladder is gone and can't cause anymore problems). I know I'm rambling but seeing an infant just REALLY made me realize how ready I am for a little brother or sister for Max.

SARAH: Max also loves Wheel of Fortune! Drives DH nuts as I like Wheel and he hates it - so I used to let him watch The Simpsons instead (but now Max will fuss if he changes the channel so I always get to watch Wheel - LOL!).

LisaB & Max (11 months)
email: lisa_lab@hotmail.com
Wednesday, August 11, 1999 at 10:45:46 (PDT)

Hi Everyone...or should I say "y'all"...

We're back from a terrific and long trip to San Antonio......so terrific, that we are planning on moving there! Mitch (my 3 year old) loved it......he's quite the little golfer and swimmer. Hopefully we'll move in the next year or sooner!! We want to find great jobs, so whenever that happens. Is anyone on this board from around there? I cannot remember. My in-laws live near SA and want us to move there. Of course my parents are less than thrilled that we are moving away, but at least they'll have somewhere warm to visit in the winter. We live in Minnesota now. Also, my brother and his wife are due in February, so they'll have another little grandchild to spoil. I understand their disappointment tho!

It's tough coming back to work after being away. I've been up to my eyeballs in paperwork. ugh. I'll try to catch up on the posts, but in reality....I'll probably just be able to look back on the last few.

How is everyone? Moriah, did you ever get my email? I'd love to hear more about Alex and all.

I'll try to check back in soon.
Emmy & Mitch & Jake
email: efoster@rea-alp.com
Wednesday, August 11, 1999 at 11:34:20 (PDT)

Just a quick post to Sarah.

The shooting was at a Jewish Community Center in LA. It houses a daycare and kids programs. There were 5 shot - 3 kids, 1 teenage helper and an older worker.
No one was killed. A 5 year old boy was injured the worst and after 6 hours of surgery I heard he was doing okay.
The gunman turned himself in today in Las Vegas.
JulieJ and Calen ( 4 1/2 months0
Wednesday, August 11, 1999 at 11:44:32 (PDT)

It's Crystal here. boy, time sure is flying. I remember last year. I was still preggo at this time, and my MIL was visiting from Oregon. I was on bedrest because my ankles and feet were so swollen that I couldn't wear my combat boots, so I couldn't work. Last year, I had 11 days before I was due. This year, I have 10 days to get everything for Darrel's birthday party and 12 days before my baby won't be a baby...:O(

Emmy: I'm not from SA, but I do live in Texas. I'm in FTW. Tracey, who is now on the Toddler board is from Houston.

TTFN,

Crystal and Darrel 12 months in 12 days
email: cjeanmurphy@yahoo.com
Wednesday, August 11, 1999 at 11:51:01 (PDT)

Hi! It's SARAH for the last time today. Just one more quick post before I leave for the day:

KAY - I just want to let you know that my thoughts and prayers are with you today!!! I know it's a VERY hard day for you!! Lots of love!! :)

Talk to you all tomorrow!

Sarah and Hannah
Wednesday, August 11, 1999 at 12:20:11 (PDT)

I need some one to come rescue me from two screaming babies. I don't know what is wrong. They won't sleep. They already ate. They have clean and dry bootoms. I gave them both teething medicine. No fevers. No ear pulling. I can't hold them both at the same time. I'm going insane. Darrel has been screaming on and off all day. Carmen screams only when Darrel does and every once in a while when he's not. I've absolutely no idea of what to do. I've tried everything that I can thinkk, and they won't stop screaming. How mothers of twins do it, I have no idea. Any advice from anyone?


Deaf Crystal and two screaming babies
email: cjeanmurphy@yahoo.com
Wednesday, August 11, 1999 at 12:31:30 (PDT)

Hello from Rita.

Just a quick one since I just got back from my other office and need to eat and pump...

Sonata - Welcome back. You do sound so much better. Glad to hear that Eray is doing well. Don't try to lose too much weight while you are BFing. I have ten pounds to my pre-pregnancy weight and ten more after that.

Megan - Hey there stranger and fellow NPR fan. It is good to hear from you. Sounds like Ben is thriving.

Crystal - Do you sing? I find that music can sometimes work wonders with babies. Clowning around (dancing, etc) also catches their attention. My years of working with kids in day camps has finally paid off. By the way, Darrel may or may not change the way Maddy did. It truly depends on personality. I wanted a spirited girl, and I sure got one!

See y'all later.

Rita & Amy(7 mos)
email: ritad@home.com
Wednesday, August 11, 1999 at 12:43:10 (PDT)

I can hear once again. I got so fed up with the crying and ringing ears that I brought the babies outside. And guess what, they're now happy again. I guess they just needed a change of scenery. Thing is, I am so tired now. I want to go to sleep.


No longer deaf with 2 happy babies
Wednesday, August 11, 1999 at 13:39:59 (PDT)

Hello from LauraB -

I have a carseat question - Shane's feet touch the backseat when I put him in his carseat. Should I be turning him around even though he is only 9 months? Any help or sites to look for some info on this would be appreciated. I know you aren't suppose to move him to facing forward until they are over 20lbs and 1 year but Shane is pretty long for his age.

Sarah & Hannah -It's funny you mentioned Wheel of Fortune. We never really watched that show but this week we had it on and Shane was mesmerized so we put it on the next night and he was mesmerized again. I wonder what they find so interesting?
LauraB@Shane 9 months
email: xxbryant@aol.com
Wednesday, August 11, 1999 at 13:46:35 (PDT)

LauraB: If Shane is at 20 lbs already, then it's best to turn the car seat forward. Some times it's okay to turn the car seat forward just under 20 lbs. If Shane is nowhere near 20 lbs yet, the manufacturer of the car seat is your best resource. They are more than happy to annswer any and all questions concerning car seat use. Darrel was 20 pounds by the time he was about 8 or 9 months, and he was about 27 or 28 inches. Too long and too heavy for a rear facing car seat. But, I think the car seat manufacturer would tell you to turn Shane's car seat forward now. The recommendation is to stay rear facing until 12 months AND 20 pounds, but if a baby is 20 pounds before the first baby, it's safer for the baby to face forward, depefnding on the car seat. Darrel's car seat is certified for rear facing until 20 pounds, so after he was 20 pounds, he had to be forward facing because the car seat is only safe for rear facing up to 20 pounds. Sorry for going on and on, but I hope this info helps.


Crystal and Darrel 11 1/2 months
Wednesday, August 11, 1999 at 15:08:49 (PDT)

Hey everyone, remember me? Its, me Debbie. Did you all think I would never be back? You couldnt keep me away. Wow, there was alot going on while I was gone. We had a good visit with my parents. I think they were glad in a way to see us go home, they needed a rest. I tell you, Maddie & Emilee are getting to be two hands full. We returned home Sat. night only to have company AGAIN on Sun - Tue. Didnt I say my motel was closed for the season? Oh well, it was my girlfriend and her son, her boyfriend and his two kids. She does my hair, so I got a weave & cut, dh got his cut & Maddie got her bangs cut. She wanted to trim Emilee's bangs (they hang in her eyes) but I said NO WAY, not until shes a year old.

Emilee turned 9 months old on the 4th. She is crawling so fast I cant keep up with her. Now she is "cruising the couch" and going from the couch to the table without hands. Shes getting so big. I noticed tooth #3 (upper right) is coming in. Shes been a little fussy, but not too bad. She is getting such a personality now, waves bye bye, plays patty cake, peek a boo and loves her big sister Maddie. She is such a doll.

I glanced at the posts, so much has been going on. Alot of new Mommies & Babies, old friends coming back. I really missed you all alot.

We have been having thunder & lighting the last couple of days & it snowed yesterday. Yes, snow. I think it has snowed every month of the year since we have lived here. I am not ready to put our summer clothes away yet. Oh well, nothing I can do about that.

Megan - Sounds like you post as much as I do. I cant keep up here or on the toddlers. Did you receive the pics I sent you a couple of weeks ago? Glad you're back & Ben is doing well.

Hello, Happy Birthday, Happy Anniversary & Happy Whatever to everyone. I've missed you all so much.

I need to cut this short, so I'll talk to you all soon.
Take care.
Debbie & Emilee
email: gregndeb@qnet.com
Wednesday, August 11, 1999 at 16:07:50 (PDT)

Lisa B - I have a car seat that stays rear facing until 30 lbs. I asked the childrens hospital (who helped me install the seat) and my ped and they gave me conflicting advice. My ped said it is okay to turn them around if they are too long. The children's hospital said that studies have shown even if a baby is too long but not over the weight limit you should leave them rear facing. Their reasoning is that it is better to have a possible broken leg in an accident than a broken spine. As you can see, I am at a loss also!!!
JulieJ and Calen ( 4 1/2 months)
email: julieJ@Quebim.com
Wednesday, August 11, 1999 at 16:19:52 (PDT)